Iwaver 02 and X-speed Pro motor.

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    • May 29, 2005 at 5:29 am #11479
      ak73 pro a
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      Hi I am new I found this forum at Google:). I am from Holland (Europe), now ontopic:). Does the X-speed pro motor fit Iwaver 02?, becasue on Dutch online shop they say: X speed pro motor fitsonly Iwaver 01. Thanks for help.

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      Edited by – ak73 pro a on 29 May 2005 01:33:38

    • May 29, 2005 at 12:45 pm #20016
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      Hi,

      The motor will fit in any Mini-Z, but because it draws a lot more power than a stock motor you should have ‘stronger’ FETs installed into your car. There’s two ways of doing this. The Externally mounted ‘Woah Nelly’ and the Internally mounted FET stack.

      The ausmicro.com Shop can supply FETs for you to stack, or ph2t (an ausmicro.com member) can supply a Woah Nelly.

      FETs: shop.ausmicro.net

      Nelly: http://www.woahnelly.com

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    • May 29, 2005 at 2:22 pm #20008
      ken_wyleung
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      I had try the i-Waver X-Speed Pro before, it burn my stock Kyosho Mini-Z PCB FET. Althought I puted it on my 2×5 4562 FET Kyosho Mini-Z MR-01, it was slower than Kyosho X-Speed motor.

      If you want some motor can fit on stock PCB (Mini-Z or i-Waver) with good result, I will say Kyosho X-Speed, PNStock andAtomic Stock, but not i-Waver motors.

      Edited by – ken_wyleung on 29 May 2005 10:23:35

    • May 29, 2005 at 2:45 pm #20005
      peteWah
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      Ken,
      You must of got a dud pro mate, mine screams on a 2×3 stack of 7317’s

      X-Speed, PN SpeedyNm and PNSo5 motors i would use in a stock setup…

      ak73 pro a,
      You will need fets in you car to run the x speed Pro or other hotter motors…
      :smiley2:

    • May 29, 2005 at 9:52 pm #20004
      ak73 pro a
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      Thanks a lot for help, but what do mean stacking fets? Stacking= two or more fets on top of the othe fet? and connecting them parallel? I mean pin 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc?

    • May 30, 2005 at 12:22 am #20002
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      ak73 pro a , welcome to ausmicro! 🙂

      The xspeed pro is what is called a ‘hot’ motor. A ‘hot’ motor requires a mosfet upgrade (stacking) or an external turbo to run.

      For stacking mosfets on the IW-02 I reccomend the IRF7317 mosfets from the ausmicro.com shop. They are equal to the popular si4562 mosfets that you may find in your investigations.

      For stacking mosfets in the IW-02, I wrote this review (inc pictures) here:

      http://www.ausmicro.net/v3/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2860&FORUM_ID=13&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=IRF7317+mosfets+from+the+shop%2C+a+little+review%2E%2E%2E%2E&Forum_Title=Mini%2DZ%2C+Mini%2DX%2C+X%2DMods+%2D+Technical

      For the IRF7317 mosfets, go here:

      http://shop.ausmicro.net/product_info.php?products_id=31&osCsid=e3288f5a1d395823425a6ecfb22eefe0

      Best price you will find, including for international!

      hope this helps.

      ph2t.

    • May 30, 2005 at 12:45 am #20000
      ak73 pro a
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      Thanks a lot this really helping me out.

      Edited by – ak73 pro a on 29 May 2005 20:54:16

    • May 30, 2005 at 12:54 am #19993
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      no worries, let us know how you go!

      cheers,

      ph2t.

    • May 30, 2005 at 3:57 pm #19998
      dgs73
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      quote:

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      Ken, You must of got a dud pro mate, mine screams on a 2×3 stack of 7317””s X-Speed, PN SpeedyNm and PNSo5 motors i would use in a stock setup… ak73 pro a, You will need fets in you car to run the x speed Pro or other hotter motors…

      too many of them seem to be like this out of the pack Pete, as you know I got a dud as well

    • May 30, 2005 at 5:53 pm #19981
      peteWah
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      quote:

      Ken, You must of got a dud pro mate, mine screams on a 2×3 stack of 7317””s X-Speed, PN SpeedyNm and PNSo5 motors i would use in a stock setup… ak73 pro a, You will need fets in you car to run the x speed Pro or other hotter motors…

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      too many of them seem to be like this out of the pack Pete, as you know I got a dud as well.

      I think if you put some form of spacer/shim in side the motor that would stop the slop of the armature and allow for the comm head to line up with the brushes proper but you wont let me try that, and it needs better wires…:smiley2:

    • May 30, 2005 at 7:51 pm #19980
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      Pete;you can have it, it’s no good to me. Did’nt work properly since I got it. And i prefer to be able to put a motor in and it works, and not have tofiddle around with things out of my experience…

    • May 30, 2005 at 10:21 pm #19974
      ak73 pro a
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      Before I will order the IW02, I have a lot of quesions:

      1. What is servo saver?, do I need this?

      2. Do I need rear shock set?

      3. I would like to buy some bearings, does it fit on stock IW wheels? Or do I have to buy new wheels for the bearings?

      Thanks for help.

    • May 31, 2005 at 1:43 am #19971
      peteWah
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      Servo saver,
      On the car when you buy it…

      Shocks can work for you or agaist depending on how your car is set up…

      Bearings will fit iWaver or Kyosho sets without having to buy wheels to fit….
      Get some Alloy wheels down the track for bling Reasons.

      Ball diff,
      I recomend that you buy 1 for tracking reasons…

      Carbon H plates,
      Are a must.

      There are many aftermarket parts you can buy:smiley2: Just ask Questions like you are and try multiple setups and note what works and what dosen’tAnd have Fun:p

    • May 31, 2005 at 1:46 pm #19963
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      I always recommend the bearins and ball diff for starters. No matter what teh Mini-Z chassis (or iWaver equivalent) they make all the difference to the performance.

      Once you have that get used ot the handling and work out what you need to make the car handle to suit your driving style.

      Springs, dampers, hot motors etc all only help you hit solid things faster, this will happen a lot while you’re getting used the car.

      A.

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    • June 2, 2005 at 2:37 am #19953
      ak73 pro a
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      Is this fet any good: Infineon BSO215C, beacuse this one is only available at a shop.

      Edited by – ak73 pro a on 01 June 2005 22:38:13

    • June 2, 2005 at 2:13 pm #19942
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      I’ve not heard of them before but will do some reading today and get back to you. The main FETs used in Mini-Z are: IRF7317 (that I sell), IRF7389 (that I used to sell), SI4562DY (that most others sell for way mroe than they’re worth).

      A.

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    • June 2, 2005 at 2:16 pm #19943
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      I would strongly recommend against the chips you mentioned. Just read a few quick links and they’re not up to the task with hot motors.

      A.

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    • June 3, 2005 at 3:17 am #19939
      ak73 pro a
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      Not even when I stack 2×8 (total 8 fets)?

    • June 3, 2005 at 10:03 am #19933
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      I have an IWI02 with 2×6 IRF 7317 ans I run with the X-Speed pro with a 12t pignon 😉

      I can tell you then the police isn””t happy(64km/h-40mph)!!!

      And I haven””t got any problems

      I run with 2×2 2/3 AA and it””s okay.

      But I think than the Palzamatomic is better because is has moretorque, so better on littletrack andthe X-Speed pro drawes to muchAMP for AAA batreries.

      So, have lot”s of fun with your crazy cars 😉

      Edited by – Villou on 04 June 2005 01:11:52

    • December 13, 2005 at 11:03 pm #18077
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      help

      the Bare Boardspider turbo is the same thing as a external spider turbo except for the wires is this correct

    • December 14, 2005 at 6:37 pm #18068
      peteWah
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      If you look at all the spider options in the Ausmicro shop
      You will find the answers there…

      :smiley2:

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