iWaver 04 vs. iWaver Firelap 4.0

[Seatbelt]

Can someone tell me what the differnce between these two are? The firelap is cheaper, but it says it’s the “newer” one. Thanks 🙂

[pimpsmurf]

The ‘New I-waver 04’ Has oil shocks stock. Very cool. The Firelap 4.0 is what they now call the older iwaver 04 IIRC. It is basically the same as the MZM. I believe it has different body mounts, so if you go alloy, you will need a MZM body. you can get MZM Bodies (I’m getting the Mad Killer White body to paint!)

It seems that I’m wrong a lot though.

-JNY

[Seatbelt]

Haha pimpsmurf, at least you’ve had the courage to reply anyway 😀 As it is said, successful people fail the most, and you could be right anyway
So I take it the “new i-waver 04” is the better one to get out of the two?

[pimpsmurf]

ausmicro has the ‘New I-waver 04’. It is called the ‘Bigfoot’. It comes with the phatty oil-filled shocks. Now all I need is some different springs and I will be set. I have full alloy coming (every damned thing), oil-filled shocks, titanium screws & main gear, and a clear chassis, etc, etc…

If I can get my lipos on here somehow and drop this sucker, I will have a sweet ride. I guess I’m going to go with Ph2t’s drop (screws and shock mount mods). The only thing I forgot to order from rcmart.com was the spring set for the oil shocks I ordered from ausmicro.com. Sucks, but I guess the stock ones will cut it for now. I’ll just be happy to get rolling again as I couldn’t brake fast enough and ran into my garage. Snapped the knuckle and re-injured the rear lower sus-bar. sucks ass.

In all honesty, I would recommend getting the $40 firelap from ebay, and ordering upgrades for it. you will need a body if you upgrade the shock mounts, but it will be worth it. (Firelap bodies look ugly in the pictures I’ve seen.)

Which reminds me, that I ordered the wrong damper mounts. I got the gpm, not kyosho mounts (kyosho mounts have 3 mounting holes for the springs to assist in dropping the car. son of a bitch.)

-JNY

[Seatbelt]

Can’t find the firelaps for $40 on ebay, cant even find RTR kits on there. The firelap doesn’t come with the cool radio though does it?

[Seatbelt]

Whoops, found it, thats $40 USD isn’t it? So will the firelap with the upgraded shocks be better than the 04?

[Aaron]

Yeah USD40 on ebay.

We have one iWaver 04 and two Firelap 4.0s in stock.

I posted my observations in another thread, currently linked off homepage.

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[pimpsmurf]

The firelap 4.0 does have the same body mounting brackets as the MZM, so aftermarket alloy won’t be a problem (get the kyosho shock mounts!!! They own! The low-down shock (mmw14?) are also the shiznit. I’m gonna have to sell the two rear alloy and 1 front alloy damper mount I bought on ebay and get those kyosho ones and the lowdowns w/ springs. I’ll keep the oil-filled for ‘offroading’… lol. as if. This thing can’t handle much more grass than freshly-cut fairways on the golfcoarse. I recommend using the bushings in the grass too. Even gunbutter didn’t keep my bearings from blowing out.

-JNY

[Seatbelt]

So which is better in stock form, the Firelap or the 04? The firelaps also not on the iwaver website

[pimpsmurf]

they are on firelap.com, which is sort of just a placeholder.

In stock form, the new O4.

-JNY

[dgs73]

dont forget to Loctite the screws in to these chassis’ if you’re gonna go all alloy… things like to vibrate loose pretty easy… and if i’m not wrong, the Firelap don’t come with the 10 channel lcd transmitter (feel free to correct me if wrong…)

[Aaron]

I would think the iWaver 04 is better (the old style 04). Just get a MZM set of alloy mounts and a MZM body . But you gett he LCD controller, oil shocks and everythign else is the same.

However the Firelap is closer to MZM overall.

The new iW04 is going to be interesting. If it ever lands

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[Admin]

Can you give us your best guess on when the ‘New iWaver 04’ will arrive?

[pimpsmurf]

Many have said that the iWaver oil shocks suck. leaky and such. Might be better with grease instead of oil, but I don’t plan on buying any and finding out otherwise.

I got my kyosho-brand front and rear damper mounts in today, and wow. They are really nicely done. The front one had a couple holes in it and I couldn’t quite figure out why in the world holes would be needed where they were, but they seem strong enough. I can’t bend them with my hands, but I’m a geek so that can be taken with a grain of salt.

The low-down shocks are FANTASTIC! I love them. Remember to order two sets of springs (it was a ‘DOH!’ moment for me), but they really drop it as much as you can go with full articulation, and if I’m correct, the ‘soft’ springs in the set are actually a little harder than the stock springs. Plus, with oil shocks and a LSSM mod, you can get wicked clearance and articulation. I’m planning to go LSSM with my old stock dampers. I’m really impressed with the aftermarket kyosho products. Well worth the extra cash over the gpms. Now I don’t have to hack the hell out of it like ph2t did!

I’m working on a design for an aluminium ‘racing’ main chassis. It is going to be 1-piece billet from a local C&C shop. When I get the design finished, I will get production costs worked out, take some orders (at cost) and release the AutoCAD file to the public. I really want to get rid of the last piece of plastic (I hope) that I’ll have on my MZM. I’ve yet to get my alloy order in from HK, so I’m not sure if I will still have plastic on the model. Hopefully $300 in GPM will get rid of all the plastic. No point in just moving the stress points around and replacing different parts.

The order should be here by next tuesday (maybe tomorrow!), so I will definately post pictures when I get it together.

BTW, it is kind of pointless to order a titanium screw set with full alloy… another ‘DOH!’ moment.

-JNY

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