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alot of people at my track run tc3’s hpi pro 3’s. most people use 12-15 turns

i only raced with 1 losi xxx-s in the past 3 months and it looks like a nice lil car

i use a tamiya trf414mkll with a 11 turn phantom handwound but that motor is over kill.

but really some things you gotta look at are do you like shaft or belt? i personal like belt drive but outher people say shaft drive is better

but how i found my car is i went to a few tracks and asked guys if i could test there car becouse i was thinking of 1 and i drove the tamyia and i loved how it handles and it can pick up speed fast comeing out of the corners.

but look at each cars specs weight suspension setup motor placement.

butif you want a full bore race car then go for the tc3 at http://www.racinghardcore.com and buy 1 of there full opption tc3

well they have nice tc3 rtr kits that are race ready they got a 19 turn reedy mod. proline body rims and tires hitec linx radio. and the racer kit aka the rtr kit is faster than the team and factory team kit just read on it and it was by the guy who desighned the car.

if you dont know people who can make custom parts go with the tc3 just about everyone makes parts for the car and there not all that much.

if you do get the tc3 hese some things to buy with it. the large fin heat sink for the motor. threded shock set “really nice shocks i use them” and maybe the alu. drive shaft from hardcore racing becouse my phantom broke my stock shaft. and i think they just got a tc3 to do 110mph maybe a lil more i forgot but they used a 15 turn look on there website they posted it.

Hmm… VR4 likes Tamiya now? 😯

TA04 is 95% of the 414s… you’ll be lying if you seriously swear you can miss that extra 5%. :smiley2: Think of it as the “consumer” version of the 414, and you get the idea. It lacks absolutely nothing in speed.

TA04 is a bit more user-friendly, and easier to get parts for. Besides, my usual sources tell me the 414 seems to have been discontinued – they haven’t received any new stocks of anything since last xmas. Hard to buy one new now, and I don’t know of too many Ozzie shops who even had them on the shelf. Also, the TRF (Tamiya Racing Factory team) guys who used to run 414s have this year moved on to the EvoIII.

TA04 comes in several different levels too… from TA04S to TA04PRO, TA04R then now there’s the limited edition TA04TRF with the fancy SSG chassis set and all the fruit.

Check your local club (talking of which, WHICH is it??).

Local racing classes are usually
-540 (usually limited to Tamiya tub cars running silver 540 only, gearing and options are very limited by the rules)
-PRO 540 (any chassis, any gearing, running silver 540 only)
-STOCK (using ROAR stock motors only)
-MODIFIED (ahh, pretty much anything goes = big bux)
-MINI (Tamiya FWD Mini Coopers only, with SportTuned motor)

If this is your first go racing, best head for the 540 class first. You may need a tub TA04, which limits you to the TA04S and TA04R. Usually anything with a plate chassis (04PRO, 04TRF) is stuck into PRO 540 and the competition is much hotter there.

All motors are “540” sized (physically). 😀

Generally speaking, there’s 3 levels:-

1) 540 “silvercan” motors (27-turn) are what you get in a RC kit. They’re sealed unopenable and you can’t access the brushes, springs or timing.

2) ROAR stock (27-turn, 24-deg timing)… these days they’re “Rebuildable” so you can legally take them apart to clean, but you can’t change the timing. Brushes & springs are open.

3) Modifieds = anything that’s not stock, everything’s open. These usually have ballbearings for the shaft, and can be machine-wound or handwound (better balanced, more expensive).

Some countries also have different versions of stock motors eg 23-turn, 19-turn etc etc… but we don’t run them here. They’re not really any faster if you know what you’re doing re gearing.

Check your LHS.

Popular TC makes in Oz are:-
Tamiya TA04, TB01, TB Evo 1/2/3, 414 etc
XRay T1, T1R
Losi XXXS
Associated TC3
Yokomo (certain places)
Schumacher Mission (might be a Melbourne thing)
Corally C4.1, Assasin
HPI Pro3 (dying popularity)

Not all shops carry everything up there, but its a good chance they all carry some Tamiya stuff. Tamiya support is always good nationally.

Melbourne is good for Schumacher stuff; I think Adelaide & Sydney have more Yokomo & Corally, maybe Xray too.

Kyosho KX1 is pretty fancy but not sold/supported in Oz.

HPI makes a decent car, but the backup support outside of US/Japan has been very disappointing. There are many guys burnt by it all, so they’ll find it hard to push their Pro4 if/when it comes out.

But the car is not all. You’ll also need…
-batteries!
-ESC!
-radiogear!
-charger!
-body/paint
-tools

if your gonna race stock go for the tc3 those are fast as heck stock

some have box stock what is whatever cam with your car you use or open stock what is just a stock motor.

i like the tc3 becoue its a nice lay out and its the fasterst cornering car ever made. the ball diff is 1 of the smoothest diffs i ever felt

theres the rtr tc3 racer kit tc3 team kit tc3 and the factory team kit. the factory team has all the blue bling bling alu. parts in the box but everyone i talked to told me ta get the racer becouse its faster.

if this is your first 1/10 touring car i would go for the tc3

Why? Nothing stopping you at all…

MiniZ TX is manufactured by one of the long-time RC factories
for Kyosho, its just a stock standard AM transmitter, nothing
too fancy. It has dualrate (“reduce your steering” dial) but
not ATV (adjusts the max throw on each channel). The Perfex is
no better or no worse than a ‘basic’ pistol TX out there today.

However… you’ll have to buy a RX and 2 servos (or 1 servo + ESC).
You can’t recycle your MiniZ’s other onboard stuff to 1/10.

This is where it gets interesting… when you discover that
the RX is worth A$50 and the servos are like $30 each!!

I’ll be a pal here and hint that… you can buy a whole new
basic 2ch stick radio set for about A$95-110 (TX, RX + 2 S). 🙂

Comparatively, a basic pistol 2ch set is anywhere $150-230.
You get exactly the same RX & 2 standard servos with that too.
So just buy the basic stick set, then use your Perfex TX!

Ah yes… was gonna ask “where”, but I’ll bet that’s
Northside @ Forestville Netball Courts, Forestville. :):)

They seem to run a “Novice” class what other smaller clubs
call “Race What ya Brung” class. Basically newcomers only,
who if they win too consistently would be encouraged to go
into one of the other regulated classes. :p

As for what VIC runs, try VORTEC electric rules

Whoa, 1 step at a time, matey… 😀

If its a well-run raceday, there’s usually very little
time in-between races… 2 mins max. If you run both
classes you will unlikely be able to swap motors in time.
(Crazy racers who do run both usually run 2 cars.)

Also, it is tradition that the race immediately after yours,
you are expected to “marshall”… ie stand around the track and
rescue crashed cars. Mod race usually comes straight after stock.

Mod is also seen as an “ultimate” class. Its not just motors
that change, but you’ll need the infrastructure to support that
ultra-hot $160 mod motor … eg $500 ESC, $200 battery packs
(used max only Once per day) charged on your $500 charger.
As batteries might take 70-90mins to charge, mod guys usually
have TWO of those chargers… and 1 pack of batts for each run.
Mod motors also need regular maintenance on a $600 motor lathe,
and chew thru brushes & springs regularly.

You can get away with lesser stuff in Stock & Novice… 😀

VIC have a “540” class as its quite amazing how fast these
silvercan motors can really run, when you gear them right.
Their laptimes aren’t much behind that of Stock.

You can buy an AIRTRONICS RV2PS radio system, (Pistol TX, Rx, 2 servos etc) for Around 50 USD.

My brother has this set and he has never used it, i might be able to have a chat with him….Oh its 27mhz, so the mini z tx works with it, and personally i think the feel of the mini z tx is better than the airtronics one.

Oh, and panda, what class9es0 do you race in???

get the new hitec aggresser its about $60uds with 2 servos

Too darned hard to find time to race these days, and with winter chances are its raining… :dead: On the w/e managed to scrape a couple of spare hrs on Sat to visit the track with the latest red-n-blue-star’d acquisition, so that was good.

And just as a thought – one of the guys I work with *waves down the corridor towards RingoDingo HQ* has had great success running a low buck TL-01 in the local clubs here.

He’s got the stock TL01 kit (Nissan 350Z) runs the speed tuned gear set and big pinion. Oh and a GM V4R ESC. Ball bearings ofcourse.

And that’s it – he’s beating much ‘better’ chassis and having a ball on a limited budget.

The point being that for his AU$200 plus radio gear investment he’s getting on very well. Yes he did buy the car kit for like AU$135

I don’t race any of my chassis preferred to hack around at lunchtimes with the guys or on the beach etc.

A.

i’ll be in aus in 4 weeks on vacation if ya want i’ll sell you my schumacher mission carbon or my tc3 for cheep i dont use um any more so i just wanna get a few bucks for um.

Dare we ask what happned tot he 1:1 GT-ahh?

That’s really gotta hurt bummer 🙁

A.

Also consider the TB-01, which optioned to TB EVO-3 spec (or you can get a EVO3 for $700), is the current ITC world champion. I’m definately getting one to replace my TC3 (which is already spoken for).

Sorry… just a few corrections to clarify here… :p

1) TB01 cannot be optioned up to become a EvoIII. The two share no common parts, so makes that impossible. Drivetrain is totally unique to e3; e3’s suspension is shared with TA04/414.

2) EvoIII did NOT win the IFMAR ISTC in Aug/02. EvoIII only came out later than that… the World Champ used a TRF414M belt-drive car.

3) In celebration, Tamiya sold a replica World Champs car called “TRF414M World Championship Replica”. There is also an updated chassis since then called the TRF414M2. All 414s are Tamiya’s “pro” level cars, and not usually found on the shelf of your local hobby shop.

4) World Champ Surikarn Chadyasuriya has since started driving the EvoIII too, and after winning the Thai Champs and the Yamayama Cup this year… there is (only just shipping) the red “EvoIII Surikarn Edition”.

I can’t stand all that red… :smiley16:

1. Um, the Evo/414 suspension does fit TB-01 (aka TB-01 Long arm), and the TB-EVO was an evolution of the TB-01, and each evo builds on that. Notice that the guide book makes on mention of the EVOI or II? That’s because it’s a TB-01. It’s true that none of the parts are the same, but that doesn’t mean they’re not compatible.

2.I didn’t say it won the IFMAR ISTC. I said it won the ITC (International Touring Championship. Before IFMAR sanctioned a touring car class, the ITC was the highest ranked event for 1/10 touring. It’s still a world title (International after all), just not sanctioned by IFMAR.

3. Yes, and my hobbyshops do have the pro cars. But I prefer to get mine online (690AUD), LHS will probably be asking 850 LOL.

Red is a nice change from blue and purple. Especially if you have a Ferrari Body on top 😀

Thats cool! i really want to have a competitive car, but on a tight budget, (im only 16 for f***s sake!!!) I dont have a huge cash flow, and work kicked me off the roster for taking time off…..

If you’re on a budget, seriously look at a good used car, check ebay for bargains.

Unfortunately, TL-01 (TT-01 and TA-02) go through gears all too quickly, especially if you don’t have at least a rear ball diff.

Haha, if you’re willing to hack away at anything, there’s always a way to make things fit. Or use a Bigger Hammer!! 🙂

Original TB Evo is based around the TGR gearboxes. How many parts left are TB01? EvoII had a few improvements but shares the same basics. But EvoIII is a total redesign.

Stock TB01 runs pretty well, if built right.
TA04 works well even straight out of the box, even the tub ones.
Regular runner has been an 04PRO, hopped-up but mainly handling options only. Its a very adjustable chassis and you can set it up exactly how you like your car to handle.
EvoIII… wow.

HobbyCo had a bargain special on those 6 mths ago.
They went quick!!! … even I missed out… :dead:

Yup that’s where it came from…

He got lucky…