“Build RC Car” Mag (or what else we’d buy with $$)

[L337_krew]

hey i was watchin da telly and saw da add for one of those buy a magazine and assemble an rc car…hahaha any1 else see dis ad? hahaha looks cool…:D:D

changed the title slightly, hope you don’t mind – pb

Edited by – PandaBear on 16 February 2004 11:54:51

and again! – pb

Edited by – PandaBear on 02 March 2004 16:22:47

[twizm]

im considering it…it looks like a good kit, though how many copies of the mag do you need to buy…

[L337_krew]

hahaha looks cool aye? do u know wat its called? …i fink dere would b alot of copies…so they can make $$$ maybe like 20-30 copies?…hahaha may more if u have to build ur own remote HAHAHAHA

[micro_Amps]

Yeah, I saw it in the shop, the first edition has 1 wheel and a few extra parts, so its going to be a long road to getting a finished car.
🙂 uA

[KittyKatSmack]

Hey micro Amps,

How much was the introductory mag? What was the wheel like? Was it good quality? What was the magazine called?

Details!!!! More input!!!!

an wots wiff da fully sik writin n stuff?
it hurts my brain to read it!

an ifn uz gots 2 makin da carz n remote, wot ifn uz gotta build batteries too?
*boggles*
How do you type “fully sik” style
OHMYGODMATETHATSJUSTTOOMUCH!!!!

(just kidding fellas!!!)

^..^

[PandaBear]

Haha… yeah, that “magazine” has been out overseas many moons ago.

Yeah, you buy your RC Subaru piece by piece… and I can’t think of any more enjoyable way of doing it!! (haha… I am KIDDING!)

And I seriously doubt if that $4-95 Introductory Price will be kept like that for the remaining issues… :smiley2:

I think I’ll be saving my money… unless some certain editions can provide useful tidbits for any projects.

[ph2t]

IT’s all about the small print….

$4.95 the first issue, $15.95 for every issue after that. I’ve been *told* it’s 48 issues……

personally I would just buy a real RC car…..

ph2t.

[Aaron]

Sounds liek that build-a-robot magazine that come out a while back… A collegue has 3/4 built his robot and I think he’s not getting any more parts…

At 48 issues I think a nice TL01 or buggy or whatever could be had easily 😉

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[twizm]

that equates to 780 bucks worth of car, and its not even 4WD…
christ.

[z-beam]

my mates younger brother is still getting parts for his build a robot thingy. latest part was a voice recog. microphone for the remote….
he swears there will be a screen forthe remote and a camera for the robot soon.

[PandaBear]

Quote:

…At 48 issues I think a nice TL01 or buggy or whatever could be had easily 😉

$15.95 X 48 + 4.95 = $770.55

That’ll get you a His & Hers PAIR of TL01B… Baja King & Queen?? :smiley2:

[ph2t]

All the info can be found here:

http://www.deagostini.com.au/radiocontrolcar/action.php

from the FAQ:

What are the engine specifications?

Engine type: Mabuchi RS-540SH-7520
Voltage: 7.2 V
Speed: 20,000 rpm

How many issues will be in the collection?

Your Radio Control car will be complete in 45 parts.

Stuff that!

There’s also some video on the site, check it out. The car doesn’t look like it’s going THAT fast. Not as fast as the TV ad makes it out to be anyways……

ph2t.

[brendan]

yeah i got one of these mags, got it last night. a issue comes out every week, and it is 14.95 after that. the parts are cheap, and u will be paying over 100 for a 80 doller car in the end! it’s not worth it.

[oldtamiyaphile]

I was wondering when this would happen. I was hoping for an LXX Mini-Z type deal and as the weeks go on, you’d get ball races a ball diff and so on. I think that would have been worth getting.

Don’t forget, you get free gifts! :p

Quote:

Despatch 1 – Stopwatch/FM Radio
Despatch 2 – T- Shirt
Despatch 3 – Toolkit
Despatch 4 – Diecast Subaru Impreza Model
Your first delivery comes with two magazines and your Stopwatch Radio.Thereafter,you will receive 4 magazines every 4 weeks along with the relevant free gifts.
Please allow up to 28 days for each delivery. You are free to cancel at any time, giving 28 days notice.

Who’s planning on getting the issue with the body? HEHE.

[jamiekulhanek]

A Mabuchi RS540 wouldn’t make 60km/h.

Why pay so much for it??? It’s cheap crap!!!

[jamiekulhanek]

Im gonna get the issue with the Rx/Tx, not bad for 15.95 i guess!

[PandaBear]

Quote:

A Mabuchi RS540 wouldn’t make 60km/h.

Why pay so much for it??? It’s cheap crap!!!

That’s “UP TO” 60, old pal.

(As in… UP TO the Top of the Cliff and chucking it over. :smiley2:)

Ahh, new 540s sell for $15-20 at LHS anyway, no huge ripoff there.

[PandaBear]

Quote:

Who’s planning on getting the issue with the body? HEHE.

SHHH!!… keep it to yourself, ok OTP? :smiley2::):)

[jamiekulhanek]

Quote:

Quote:

A Mabuchi RS540 wouldn’t make 60km/h.

Why pay so much for it??? It’s cheap crap!!!

That’s “UP TO” 60, old pal.

(As in… UP TO the Top of the Cliff and chucking it over. :smiley2:)

Ahh, new 540s sell for $15-20 at LHS anyway, no huge ripoff there.

I meant the WHOLE car, shitful quality and a big $780 sticker.

[PandaBear]

I suppose if you had to go build yourself a $30,000 Commodore
entirely out of GMH’s spareparts items, that’ll probably cost
you over $100,000 in parts alone before labour, shop supplies etc.

That’s called MARKETING for you, matey.

Slight correction too… think its

1x $ 4.95
44x $14-95

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= $662-75

Wow, $120 discount! :smiley16:

[micro_Amps]

And the Commodore would probably take more than 45 magazine issues to put together as well, lol.
(Damn, where have the smileys gone?)
🙂 uA

[oldtamiyaphile]

One of the big Ford builders who’s name escapes me, built a V8 ute (before Ford sold them) entirely from new parts, so it probably isn’t that expensive. A complete body costs $8000, another $8k on an engine, so you’d have $14k to finish the rest of the car…

[Aaron]

Twas those guys that build Limos etc… Either Jacab (Tamworth based) or Hillier – I can’t remember which.

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[magtec_racing]

sounds kinda cool never seen it in the us tho. but i guess if you buy rc mags alot and if its a good mag then its worth it but if your doing it for the car its not worth it.

but if you dont have much money and wanan finance a rc car this sounds like the way lmao

[magtec_racing]

oh yeah can anyone post some pics of this?

[Pork_Hunt]

I worked in spare parts about a year ago, and one of the customers there had just picked up a brand new Monaro shell from Holden for like $2,500.

[PandaBear]

Don’t know if any of you guys have experience in rebuilding/restoring 1:1s, but usually its “big bits are cheap, its the little bits that cost the most”. 😯

[jamiekulhanek]

Dunno about restoring, but engine rebuilds cost alot.

[PandaBear]

Quote:

Dunno about restoring, but engine rebuilds cost alot.

Engine rebuilds aren’t cheap, but at least its a case of go or no-go.
Put the good parts in, reassemble it right and you’ve got a pretty
good chance of it starting at first pop – even if its a DIY job.

But with…

-interior trimming *
-upholstery *
-dashboard re-veneering *
-rebuild instruments *
-overhaul drivetrain
-rebuild gearbox, and overdrive unit
-rebuild brakes
-panel beating
-cutting out all the rust
-serious paint preparation
-a proper paintjob

(* = very few tradesmen left in these trades!!)

That’s where the real $$$ disappear too.

If brand new spareparts were (supposedly) so cheap, there’ll be
no market for the chopshop “parts recyclers” that are everywhere. :smiley2:

[PandaBear]

For anyone who’s too blind to read, the website
to the subject car was posted earlier. :dead:

Quote:

All the info can be found here:

http://www.deagostini.com.au/radiocontrolcar/action.php

…

ph2t.

btw its not a “magazine” like you’d think eg Woman’s Day.
If its anything like the previous Robot and all the other similar
‘marketing’ efforts, all you’ll find in the paper bit is advertising
& brief instructions if any.

Definitely a huge page on “what’s in next month”!!?! 😀

[oldtamiyaphile]

Holden will sell you a shell really cheap if you aren’t going to register it (something to do with ADR approval I guess).

The Hilliers build utes based on wagons, but the one I’m thinking of was a purely parts build, no body work. The builder was an engine man.

The $$ disappear when you have to pay $30+ an hour for labour, but DIY, well it’s all ‘free’.

And it seems WA isn’t getting the mag, at least not yet…

[jamiekulhanek]

Im gonna have a go (heck you gotta learn somewhere!!! I’ve got a hoist, tools, etc. ) at rebuilding the top end of my engine, then later on maybe put a dual barrel weber on it with a nissan patrol airscoop ($80 new from nissan dealer) and a small airbox, just to make a boring L20B an eeency bit more fun. It won’t go hard, but i don’t want a car that goes too hard when i’m still an inexperienced driver……unless it’s R/C, where the chance of getting killed in an accident is almost impossible. Lol some people have been killed by scalextric cars, by lying on the ground and watching the cars zoom towards them……..

[PandaBear]

You found yourself some wheels, Tassie bro? 🙂

1st rule with cars is… “if it ain’t broken, fix it until it is”. :p

Don’t do any explaratory work on anything unless you have to, you’ll bound to find something to meddle with… and it’ll always take longer and more $$ than you budget for.

When mucking about with an old bomb, make sure you set a “limit” on how far you pull stuff off too. If you don’t, you might find yourself having taken out every last bolt and you have a basket case in your hands = 20yr restoration project.

[KittyKatSmack]

/me is at the beginning of the mod addiction of her 1:1 car….

so far the list includes
CAI and K&N filter
clear side indicators
rear sway bar
fully sik interior neonz
replaced the head unit with mp3 player
stickers = 10kw each dontchyaknow
headers are in the mail 😉
17*7″ dtm executives with rubber = lots of $$ but schweeeeet

wanted:
window tint on my tinted glass
jap spec factory ecu
dump it!!!
custom painted brake calipers
driving lights
custom punched plate mesh alternative in the front bar

and I am making the fatal mistake of not waiting until the stuff is broken, and that is why I am broke 🙁

and then this car will be for sale…. it will be fully schik! phat!

[PandaBear]

Ok, back to the Original Topic. :smiley2:

btw… I couldn’t find this magazine car in the city, so today I went all the way out to the suburbs… and yay I found a newsagent carrying it.

My lord.

Then I went had a chat with a nearby LHS.

Seems he’s pretty rapt with the concept… as there’s now quite a few newbies coming in and asking about RC, more than usual.

He’s patiently telling them they’re gunna spend $600+ on that… uh “thing”… and for much less he can sell them a real Tamiya full set.

But what gets them is the waiting for 40+ weeks. Nah, kiddies have no patience these days.

Real amazing thing is… these same kiddies WANT to build their car, they demand it! Yeah, they’re not interested in an RTR, even an XB Tamiya. They wanna piece it together!!!

I approve! 🙂

[jamiekulhanek]

Well why not??? If i got an RTR, i’d have to rip it to bits and re-build it just to get the satisfaction. I love things that come in kit form, building is half the fun!!!

[bithed]

…this magazine went on sale here in Japan yesterday…590 JPY for the first one and then 1400 jpy each week after that…i MIGHT get it to put together with my son…i would have to stock up on issues for him because a week of waiting is almost too much !! He has enough trouble waiting for pokemon to come back on between commercials…The whole thing look sinteresing though…it will be worth it keeping an eye on…the physical BUILDINg of it is quite inviting indeed…admittedly it would be MUCH MUCH cheaper to buy a surikarn even and piece that together…gee…i think i just talked myself out of it..lol…

[PandaBear]

Buy a nice kit, keep it in daddy’s closet and give him a new part each time sonny’s been a good boy… :D:)

[bithed]

…Panda 🙂 THAT would take longer than the magazine…lol…I dont have a son…i have a very small monster child 🙂

…I will stick to the Z’s and watch out for any parts that might look useful 🙂 One SPRING a week just doesnt do it for me…lol…

[twizm]

i have a tamiya QD series (early RTR) and its ok, although it doesnt resemble a built kit at all. take off the lexan body and its just like a tandy RC. its good though for kids starting out like myself that dont want to smash something that took me a week or so to build.

i was looking at a kit a while ago, but considering i hardly drive my QD anymore, driving my TA01 would be a one off thing.

plus, theyre only fun on wet roads, which is why a QD is good because its all enclosed 🙂

[peedee]

i want the body mag thats it the chassis design is that of my 1979 rough rider with a radio box lol

[PandaBear]

Quote:

… my 1979 rough rider with a radio box

PD:- If ya ever think of selling, let me know 1st ok? 🙂

[micro_Amps]

That was quick Panda, and not too subtle either.
But why doesnt that surprise me :smiley2:
:DuA

[PandaBear]

Not the 1st time :blush: think we had words way before xmas…

[jamiekulhanek]

Though i am not interested in building the car, im going to keep an eye out for any parts that might be useful. Wonder if the RX/TX is any good?

[Aaron]

You’d probably find maodding an LXX Mini-Z clone TX/RX is a better trick 😉

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[PandaBear]

I’d rather spend the $$ on a dozen X-Mods… 🙂

[jamiekulhanek]

Id rather put the cash towards buying a new 1:1 car….750 aint alot, but you gotta get there somehow.

[Aaron]

Aye the $$ for buying a car outa magazine will buy me half of a Stage 1 kit for the XR 😉

Actually I think I’d use it to kick off some new ideas for ausmicro.com but you get the idea 😉

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[micro_Amps]

Seems like this is turning into a threead on “what I’d rather spend my money on other than that RC magazine car”….
so I’ll add to it.

Panda already knows this, but I (for some unknown reason) want to return to my childhood and restore a Sandscorcher.
But, alas, I cant afford another mortgage.
:)uA

[jamiekulhanek]

Mortgage your wife man :smiley2:

[PandaBear]

My dear young Jamie.

The Wife is usually WHY some of us HAVE mortgages…

Let that be a warning for your upcoming years.

Quote:

Panda already knows this, but I (for some unknown reason) want to return to my childhood and restore a Sandscorcher.

NOOOO!!!

Eject! Eject!

Don’t go near that bright light!

regards,
Lucifer the Moth

[Aaron]

*laughs* For me in the R/C sense I would have to acquire a Tamiya 959. Probably more than 3 😉

1: Shelf Queen
2: Box Hero
3: Show-off Runner
4: Runner
5: Runner for really running

However the price of those will buy me about 200kw extra in the XR6T 👿

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[oldtamiyaphile]

$800? A well used Mountaineer chassis of course. I’m hoping Tamiya release it again soon, it’s been ten (or 15?) years 😛

[Aaron]

I’d happily buy any of the ‘interesting’ re-release cars 😉

The Lancia didn’t do it for me though..

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Site Owner Guy.

[PandaBear]

Quote:

– uA
Seems like this is turning into a threead on “what I’d rather spend my money on other than that RC magazine car”….

Ok then – so be it.

(think OUTSIDE the square)

Fixed the title! 🙂

[PandaBear]

Quote:

-OTP
$800? A well used Mountaineer chassis of course. I’m hoping Tamiya release it again soon, it’s been ten (or 15?) years 😛

Nah, avoid the “well-used” ones.

More headache than they’re worth.

Wear out this ONE part and its all history:-

As for IMPRESSIVE SIGHT, no one can yet match Al Jung’s cache:-

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

[Aaron]

Pandabear, I’m so suprised no-one is making those things as reproduction items. I mean I work two buidings away from a huge amoutn of CNC milling equipment etc.. I’m sure they can knock that kind of stuff up..

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[PandaBear]

I’d agree too, but think it all boils down to economics.

There’s no shortage of CNC equipment everywhere, but the time & effort required to tool up to manufacture each and every part (100s) would add up significantly. You’d need:-

-metal stamping
-cast metal molding
-machined gears from steel & nylon

Even if one produced a run of say 100 pcs, might still be asking $5000 per unit for a complete kit.

For that amt… might as well just eBay a NIB kit for US$2000 and get the real thing.

Same applies for individual parts too. If I had access to a lathe I could probably cut a new gear for that shaft quite easily & a hunk of brass is cheap. But to commission a workshop to do it, they’d quote $50-100 easy.

Hmm, what if one farmed it out to China… :smiley2:

Although was mentioning to uA recently… might be an interesting project to remold every component of a Sand Scorcher in transparent polymer. Purely as a display piece..!! 😀

[micro_Amps]

You like the easy projects dont you Panda. :smiley2:

Bugger the cost, put me down for one. 😀

:)uA

[jamiekulhanek]

Quote:

My dear young Jamie.

The Wife is usually WHY some of us HAVE mortgages…

Let that be a warning for your upcoming years.

Shows how little i know about women, but i guess you never stop learning ay. And in my teeny bit of experience, every female is different (duh!!:smiley2:) so you have to find the right way to her heart(aint this lame?:p), which is something you have to find out by taking risks (I hate doing this, its the make or break point). Not that anybody cares anyway lol.

Mortgage…….hope i never have one, my parents never did!

12 of those buggers, holy jeeeeesus what the hell would you do with them all? Vintage R/C don’t appeal to me…..yet. The only old cars that appeal to me are prince skylines/hakasuka’s and the 240Z.

Aaron, please please please please please put the stage 4 kit on the XR6T!!!!!! I want to see that baby schmmmmmmmmokin’!!!

[jamiekulhanek]

Quote:

*laughs* For me in the R/C sense I would have to acquire a Tamiya 959. Probably more than 3 😉

Uh i think id like to aquire atleast 3 REAL 959’s……..they are worth heaps.

[jamiekulhanek]

I tell ya what i want, i only JUST found it too!!

This:

[micro_Amps]

Hehe, WTF is that???
Front spoiler or snow plough.
Nice wing too BTW.
:)uA

[twizm]

i believe its an R30 skyline, drag racer i believe. it can be found in gran turismo 2.

on that note, i own an r30 datsun/nissan skyline 🙂 its older than me!

[jamiekulhanek]

I couldn’t decide whether it was an R30 or an R31…headlights/bonnet??

Brother has a nice resprayed black R30 in his car collection, it has a list of performance parts including an engine conversion.

Twizm, i dont reckon its a drag racer, why would it have those huge spoilers for drag racing???

[PandaBear]

Looks like something to race up Pikes Peak maybe… like that Suzuki Escudo special? 🙂

[bithed]

…Its not a drag racer its a ‘course’ racer if that makes any sense…

…Its a Skyline Silhouette Formula from the early 80’s here in Japan…4 valve DOHC RS-Turbo 🙂 its a 6th generation R30…TWO exist, a FIRST version and a SECOND version…The one pictured above is the 2nd version…

…Skynet Aoshima released them as readysets and the Autoscales showed up about two weeks ago…Slightly more expensive than your regular autoscale but the workmanship in them is outstanding…The design is oulandish but being a Skyline there are part of the whole Nissan ‘religion’ 🙂

[jamiekulhanek]

Wow bithed u know ur shit.

[PandaBear]

Did it race with the Rodenstock Celica LB Turbo Grp5??

Or was it after the Celica’s time?

[jamiekulhanek]

man this all happened before i was born

[bithed]

…jamie i HAVE to know my **** because i SELL this **** 🙂

[PandaBear]

Quote:

-BH
…jamie i HAVE to know my **** because i SELL this **** 🙂

Damned!

Thought you were just teacher to all those sailormoon girls??!

How lucky can a fella get???!!! :smiley16:

[bithed]

…Someones gotta do it panda so it may as well be the sexiest one of us 😉

…girls toys and japanese beer…you have all the fun of daily racism, immigration bullshit and one sided business contracts that leave my ass hanging every 12 months…come along for the ride boys but keep yourhead and hands INSIDE the vehicle…

…BTW the NEW BitHed HQ will be accepting guests in the WAFU (japanese) room…breakfast and shopping tour guide included 🙂

[oldtamiyaphile]

I always find it interesting when toy makers make models of cars sponsored by other toy makers, like Tamiya doing a Kyosho sponsored Skyline (or was it the other way around?):shock:

I’m going to spend my $800 on this instead (for Micro-Z Land of course):

[ph2t]

holysh1tonashingle……….

[Aaron]

*nods* I’ve been eyeing off the Skynet Readyset for some time. It ain’t cheap – but the Skynet stuff is sublime.

I’m lucky enough that one of the wholesalers I used to deal with has extremely close company links to Aoshima so been trying to not to drool to hard over this and a couple of its companion racers for a while…

As for Bithed, they make the poor dude clean the school – you gotta wonder about that, then again he’s just a Kiwi :p

(Somehow I think I’m off his christmas card list)

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[jamiekulhanek]

That R30 skyline uses an L20B DOHC turbo engine, and put out around 500hp!!!!! My car has an L20B!!!……that puts out about 100hp:blush:blackeye: Got a long way to go……

Aaron theres always gonna be the aussie vs. kiwi argument, means nothing besides an accent and a great love for sheep :p JOKE BITHED:smiley2:

[Aaron]

OK – so how are these going people?

Where are they up to?

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[bithed]

…NZ…Where the men are men and the sheep are scared :dead:

…I havent been there in a while anyway…I moved to japan when i was 18…lived in queenstown NZ for 18 months and sold rugby jerseys for a living…then moved to Surers Paradise for another 18 months abusing myself as a i went and then moved back to Tokyo to marry 🙂 Its been a long and rocky road but its been a blast…ges, sounds like im writing my own obituary 🙁

…But back at the Batcave…I never went with the magazine…not until an interesting part shows up that MIGHT improve my monster…my son digs his TAMIYA 4WD Monster anyway…especially now that it has daddy’s plasma dash in it 👿

[jamiekulhanek]

You are quite the entrepreneur (spelling??)

[bithed]

…i WISH !! unfortunately Jamie with the exception of PanicToys I have always been working for someone else…PanicToys is a dream come true, and at times the nightmare on Elm Street but one day when i can kick dinballs bum i guess it will all be worth it…lol…

…What item is Australia up to on the RC book? Has the controller showed up yet ?

[Aaron]

I think he prefers the term mover and shaker… I’ve seen him shake … it’s not pretty 😛

A.

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Site Owner Guy.

[merc-blue]

probly about 500 bux and dont even have a Motor… AHAHAHAH it adds up to 1000bux for a nitro car that does about 60 kph.. hmm why not just buy a shumacher fusion yeh so it cost about 800 bux but yeh its 3 speed about 120kph

[micro_Amps]

Last i saw it looked like a few measly servo saver parts in the latest edition, I dont know what number it was though.
:)uA

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