put a cap in yer ass……

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    • #12055
      ph2t
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      no, not really, lol…

      Seriously though, has anyone put a large capacitor on the ESC pcb? It s meant to help acceleration apparently.

      Check it out here:

      http://www.rczone.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=373

      I ll give this a go, one day……

      ph2t.

    • #50090
      PandaBear
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      A smallish cap (~600-1000uF) on the battery inputs
      often helps to avoid radio glitching if you’ve
      put in a hotter motor.

      A larger cap (1000-3000uF) might give you a little
      more ‘punch’ in a larger RC… although not sure
      what a MiniZ would do with it. Probably nothing on
      a stock PCB, maybe something on a modFET’d one.

      You’d probably get better results by getting some
      known low-InternalResistance AAA batteries… or
      rig up some AAs instead.

      Cap goes across the battery inputs, closer to the
      ESC PCB the better.

    • #50091
      ph2t
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      Thanks BigW, I’ll give this a go and let people know……

      :approve:

      ph2t.

    • #50104
      jamiekulhanek
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      I have been trying to find some caps for a while, DSE had 1 farad capacitors in their catalogue, but don’t stock ’em and i can’t find any other place that sells ’em.

      A guy in my electronics class brought a capacitor car in to fix the other day….MY LORD 4.7 F 2.5v capacitor….3 of these might do it, but at 25 bucks a set for the toy cars….i think i’ll pass.

      Do supercaps have high internal resistance anybody??

      Did some testing last night 🙂 Tested Energizer 750AAA NiMH’s. Their max discharge is 12.7 A!!! Quite high!!! Though the battery voltage drops to like 0.9v per cell.

    • #50105
      jamiekulhanek
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      Quote:
      A smallish cap (~600-1000uF) on the battery inputs
      often helps to avoid radio glitching if you’ve
      put in a hotter motor.

      Definately need one of these, when i gun the throttle, the car can do funny things.

    • #50106
      jamiekulhanek
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      Wills which AAA cells do you think is the best???

    • #50107
      ph2t
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      Quote:
      Quote:
      A smallish cap (~600-1000uF) on the battery inputs
      often helps to avoid radio glitching if you’ve
      put in a hotter motor.

      Definately need one of these, when i gun the throttle, the car can do funny things.

      Surely the ceramic caps on the motor end are for that purpose? High value caps (>1uF) will only filter out low freq noise.

      ph2t.

    • #50109
      jamiekulhanek
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      Ph2t, the ceramic caps filter out RF noise, created by the motor commutator, but when the throttle is ‘gunned’ the instantanous current draw soars to around 10 times stall current which might be a couple of hundred amps for a plasma dash motor, this current draw drops, but this huge draw of current drops the battery voltage so low that it starves the electronics and makes the electronics malfunction and do funny things.

    • #50115
      PandaBear
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      Quote:
      Wills which AAA cells do you think is the best???

      Still swearing by the Energizer NiMHs, James.

      I’m sure there’s probably better cells out there, but
      none as reliable & easily available as these.

      Even my postoffice sells ’em! 🙂

    • #50121
      Avatar photoAaron
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      1 Farad at about 16v good for you Jamie? or bigger?

      I’ll grab a couple in my next FET order (in the morning)…

      A.

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    • #50126
      ph2t
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      what’s the dimensions of this cap Aaron? got a product number? vendor info?

      cheers,

      ph2t.

    • #50135
      jamiekulhanek
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      Quote:
      1 Farad at about 16v good for you Jamie? or bigger?

      I’ll grab a couple in my next FET order (in the morning)…

      A.

      Ahhhh cancel that aaron, i have been reading up on these and they have very high resistance…..therefore they only push small amounts of current.

      I bought 3 tiny 16v/2200uF/85 degree capacitors wich can supply big current.

      2 of these=4400uF, 3 of these=6600uF wills what do you think would be better???

      Wills, energizer (japanese cells) are all I use these days….expensive but i like to think i am buying the best.

    • #50155
      Avatar photoAaron
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      No worries…

      How about 10000uF 16v?

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      Site Owner Guy.

    • #50159
      jamiekulhanek
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      Anything larger than 5000 becomes less beneficial.

      Basically if a cap is very small for it’s capacity, then it has high internal resistance.

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