Save the Servo gears

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- July 26, 2004 at 7:56 pm #12277
  peteWah
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  Can anybody think of a way to insulate or protect servo gears in big accidents/shunts
  Do you think a servo saver would be a good addition to a MRO1/MRO2, And dose anybody on aus have the brains to implement or practice or have any theroys as to how this could be done if at all…
  
  The cars keep going faster ! ! !
- July 26, 2004 at 10:26 pm #54020
  betty.k
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  alloy servo gears.:D:8ball:
- July 26, 2004 at 10:26 pm #54378
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  alloy servo gears.:D:8ball:
- July 26, 2004 at 10:40 pm #54021
  TallduDe
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  yeah metal is the only way im afraid if you really are protective about your servo gears.
  
  but remember it took a very long time to break those gears pete. other drivers on the other hand need to invest big time in metal servo gears you know who they are! :p
- July 26, 2004 at 10:40 pm #54379
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  yeah metal is the only way im afraid if you really are protective about your servo gears.
  
  but remember it took a very long time to break those gears pete. other drivers on the other hand need to invest big time in metal servo gears you know who they are! :p
- July 27, 2004 at 10:26 pm #54036
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  mr02’s come with a servo saver.
- July 27, 2004 at 10:26 pm #54394
  ph2t
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  mr02’s come with a servo saver.
- July 28, 2004 at 1:10 pm #54045
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  this was sooo obvious Pete… alloy alloy ALLOY!! :p
- July 28, 2004 at 1:10 pm #54403
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  this was sooo obvious Pete… alloy alloy ALLOY!! :p
- July 28, 2004 at 4:38 pm #54053
  jamiekulhanek
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  You can get away with just one alloy gear, the first one, but this, on big impacts will break the 2nd gear. Since i had broken like 6 1st servo gears, i had plenty of 2nds left.
  
  I’d say go alloy 1st, you have to have a BIG crash to break the 2nd…..i.e. hit something at 40km/h would break something.
  
  If you go all alloy, then its going to be tie rods/knuckles that are the weak point, ask betty.k , he has all 3 alloy gears.
- July 28, 2004 at 4:38 pm #54411
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  You can get away with just one alloy gear, the first one, but this, on big impacts will break the 2nd gear. Since i had broken like 6 1st servo gears, i had plenty of 2nds left.
  
  I’d say go alloy 1st, you have to have a BIG crash to break the 2nd…..i.e. hit something at 40km/h would break something.
  
  If you go all alloy, then its going to be tie rods/knuckles that are the weak point, ask betty.k , he has all 3 alloy gears.
- July 28, 2004 at 5:05 pm #54056
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  i was pretty lucky with servo gears. i found a good deal on ebay for a full set, normaly us$10 – 12 each:shock:i only ever managed to break one plastic servo gear, the 2nd. and that was a few days before the alloys arrived anyway. i’ve got a full alloy front end now, i never wanna deal with busted steering again!:approve::8ball:
- July 28, 2004 at 5:05 pm #54414
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  i was pretty lucky with servo gears. i found a good deal on ebay for a full set, normaly us$10 – 12 each:shock:i only ever managed to break one plastic servo gear, the 2nd. and that was a few days before the alloys arrived anyway. i’ve got a full alloy front end now, i never wanna deal with busted steering again!:approve::8ball:
- August 1, 2004 at 3:59 am #54105
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  i paid 22USD for a gpm one blackeye:
- August 1, 2004 at 3:59 am #54463
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  i paid 22USD for a gpm one blackeye:
- August 2, 2004 at 7:28 pm #54140
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  this was sooo obvious Pete… alloy alloy ALLOY!! :p
  
  fuck dude, if you dont ask questions you dont get answers….
- August 2, 2004 at 7:28 pm #54498
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  this was sooo obvious Pete… alloy alloy ALLOY!! :p
  
  fuck dude, if you dont ask questions you dont get answers….
- August 2, 2004 at 8:12 pm #54142
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  you dont ask the questions when the answer is so obvious!!:smiley2:
- August 2, 2004 at 8:12 pm #54500
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  you dont ask the questions when the answer is so obvious!!:smiley2:
- August 2, 2004 at 10:22 pm #54151
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  lol.. guys the alloy thing is wrong.. as we all know betty lost a few to the place were all the destroyed servo gears go.. (its a pretty big place).. i think we need to work out a way to get mr02 servo savers addapted.. maybe even a direct servo swap
- August 2, 2004 at 10:22 pm #54509
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  lol.. guys the alloy thing is wrong.. as we all know betty lost a few to the place were all the destroyed servo gears go.. (its a pretty big place).. i think we need to work out a way to get mr02 servo savers addapted.. maybe even a direct servo swap
- August 2, 2004 at 11:09 pm #54156
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  it’s true, i’m outta ideas on the subject now!:8ball:
- August 2, 2004 at 11:09 pm #54514
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  it’s true, i’m outta ideas on the subject now!:8ball:
- August 3, 2004 at 3:52 pm #54170
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  Solution: Don’t Fucken crash
- August 3, 2004 at 3:52 pm #54528
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  Solution: Don’t Fucken crash
- August 3, 2004 at 4:57 pm #54173
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  Or get a MRO2 (now i know) and it seems alloy is not the answer….(sorry betty)
  Its where you get hit at the front end that makes all the diff…
  and more often then not contact at high speed when in mid turn puts extra strain on the gears itself…more so if there is contact to the front wheels when turning…
  You know what im trying to say.:smiley2:
  :D:smiley2::smiley2::smiley2:
- August 3, 2004 at 4:57 pm #54531
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  Or get a MRO2 (now i know) and it seems alloy is not the answer….(sorry betty)
  Its where you get hit at the front end that makes all the diff…
  and more often then not contact at high speed when in mid turn puts extra strain on the gears itself…more so if there is contact to the front wheels when turning…
  You know what im trying to say.:smiley2:
  :D:smiley2::smiley2::smiley2:
- August 3, 2004 at 8:33 pm #54178
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  Solution: Don’t Fucken crash
  
  says it all, but oh so hard to avoid sometimes
- August 3, 2004 at 8:33 pm #54536
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  Solution: Don’t Fucken crash
  
  says it all, but oh so hard to avoid sometimes
- August 3, 2004 at 8:44 pm #54181
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  after going back to plastic servo gears my steering is much smoother. but it looks like the metal servo gears aren’t alloy after all, so there’s a good chance i can repair them with some solder.
  
  don’t crash? well it’s happening less and less now. i think i’m getting better at this driving caper!:smiley2::8ball:
- August 3, 2004 at 8:44 pm #54539
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  after going back to plastic servo gears my steering is much smoother. but it looks like the metal servo gears aren’t alloy after all, so there’s a good chance i can repair them with some solder.
  
  don’t crash? well it’s happening less and less now. i think i’m getting better at this driving caper!:smiley2::8ball:
- August 4, 2004 at 1:24 am #54189
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  trent, you must realise that alloy does not mean aluminium…..
  
  An alloy is a mixture of 2 or more different metals, so chances are it’s alloy, but maybe not aluminium alloy.
  
  My GPM servo gear kinda looks weird, some dodgy cast stuff…
- August 4, 2004 at 1:24 am #54547
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  trent, you must realise that alloy does not mean aluminium…..
  
  An alloy is a mixture of 2 or more different metals, so chances are it’s alloy, but maybe not aluminium alloy.
  
  My GPM servo gear kinda looks weird, some dodgy cast stuff…
- August 4, 2004 at 6:12 am #54195
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  so your saying that these alloy gears look dodgie? not worth it?
  
  would it be better to use replacement kyosho stuff instead?
- August 4, 2004 at 6:12 am #54553
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  so your saying that these alloy gears look dodgie? not worth it?
  
  would it be better to use replacement kyosho stuff instead?
- August 4, 2004 at 11:13 am #54196
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  the alloy servo gears were much stronger than the plastic ones, it took a really big hit to break the alloys. you sydney siders have the added advantage of being far away from merc “mr damage” blueblackeye::8ball:
- August 4, 2004 at 11:13 am #54554
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  the alloy servo gears were much stronger than the plastic ones, it took a really big hit to break the alloys. you sydney siders have the added advantage of being far away from merc “mr damage” blueblackeye::8ball:
- August 4, 2004 at 9:53 pm #54206
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  Alloy gears are very strong, and take a real beating, as you know the stock 1st gear breaks very easily so just a 3rd alloy will do, trent is just a freak don’t take any notice of what he does..:D:D
- August 4, 2004 at 9:53 pm #54564
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  Alloy gears are very strong, and take a real beating, as you know the stock 1st gear breaks very easily so just a 3rd alloy will do, trent is just a freak don’t take any notice of what he does..:D:D
- August 4, 2004 at 10:13 pm #54207
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  How come no one invents a bumper/overrider to absorb the impact instead of the poor wheels taking all the hit?? 🙁
- August 4, 2004 at 10:13 pm #54565
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  How come no one invents a bumper/overrider to absorb the impact instead of the poor wheels taking all the hit?? 🙁
- August 4, 2004 at 10:35 pm #54208
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  good point, ive seen bumpers for sale for certain bodies of mini z but not all of them.
  
  i suppose have a huge arse bumper would make it look out of scale but if it protects the servo gears could be handy for some (looks at Bettyk)
- August 4, 2004 at 10:35 pm #54566
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  good point, ive seen bumpers for sale for certain bodies of mini z but not all of them.
  
  i suppose have a huge arse bumper would make it look out of scale but if it protects the servo gears could be handy for some (looks at Bettyk)
- August 4, 2004 at 11:57 pm #54209
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  trust me this is nothing. I saw a poor little kid on the w/e get his whole frontend smashed up (1/10 scale) when another car hit him side on, pow! The poor dude spent the rest of the day at the workbench…..
  
  besides, the achillies heel in betty’s setup was the fact that EVERYTHING was alloy. not just the servo gears, but the tie rod and knuckles as well.
  
  I have my 1st servo gear as alloy, but my 2nd and 3rd are 3 racing black delrin ones. My tie rod is PLASTIC, not alloy. Since going to this config I’ve barely had any issues…..
  
  We’ll that and DRIVE WITH YOUR SHELLS ON PEOPLE!!!!!!
  
  ph2t.
- August 4, 2004 at 11:57 pm #54567
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  trust me this is nothing. I saw a poor little kid on the w/e get his whole frontend smashed up (1/10 scale) when another car hit him side on, pow! The poor dude spent the rest of the day at the workbench…..
  
  besides, the achillies heel in betty’s setup was the fact that EVERYTHING was alloy. not just the servo gears, but the tie rod and knuckles as well.
  
  I have my 1st servo gear as alloy, but my 2nd and 3rd are 3 racing black delrin ones. My tie rod is PLASTIC, not alloy. Since going to this config I’ve barely had any issues…..
  
  We’ll that and DRIVE WITH YOUR SHELLS ON PEOPLE!!!!!!
  
  ph2t.
- August 5, 2004 at 12:26 am #54210
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  driving with the body like this didn’t help things either!:8ball:
- August 5, 2004 at 12:26 am #54568
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  driving with the body like this didn’t help things either!:8ball:
- August 5, 2004 at 12:45 am #54212
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  how fast was that skyline going at point of impact! and what did you hit man….
  
  coz on the weekend dgs had a head on with my car at full pelt and it drove away with no damage! (his car is a fett modd car runing a hot motor with a iwaver skyline body) the crash pushed in my gear pinon and moved my tire off the rim.
- August 5, 2004 at 12:45 am #54570
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  how fast was that skyline going at point of impact! and what did you hit man….
  
  coz on the weekend dgs had a head on with my car at full pelt and it drove away with no damage! (his car is a fett modd car runing a hot motor with a iwaver skyline body) the crash pushed in my gear pinon and moved my tire off the rim.
- August 5, 2004 at 12:58 am #54215
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  wat did i break betty i damaged the shell abit ther servo gears broke when u rolled it in the top corner
- August 5, 2004 at 12:58 am #54573
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  wat did i break betty i damaged the shell abit ther servo gears broke when u rolled it in the top corner
- August 7, 2004 at 7:08 am #54250
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  I was using kyosho delrin 2nd and 3rd, GPM alloy 1sy, topcad tie rod and topcad 1 degree knuckles, and only ever broke something (the 2nd servo gear) when i whacked it at full noise…
- August 7, 2004 at 7:08 am #54608
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  I was using kyosho delrin 2nd and 3rd, GPM alloy 1sy, topcad tie rod and topcad 1 degree knuckles, and only ever broke something (the 2nd servo gear) when i whacked it at full noise…
- August 7, 2004 at 10:35 pm #54262
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  i had a few nasty knocks throughout the day, i think cutting out the grills weakened the front as well. it was mostly superglue by the time me an’ merc’s mini had some cool neck and neck racing. i think i spun out in front of him and it was bye bye skyline!:dead:
  my issues were with the full alloy servo gears. they just don’t mesh as smoothly as the plastic ones. i think jamies setup is a better option:8ball:
- August 7, 2004 at 10:35 pm #54620
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  i had a few nasty knocks throughout the day, i think cutting out the grills weakened the front as well. it was mostly superglue by the time me an’ merc’s mini had some cool neck and neck racing. i think i spun out in front of him and it was bye bye skyline!:dead:
  my issues were with the full alloy servo gears. they just don’t mesh as smoothly as the plastic ones. i think jamies setup is a better option:8ball:
- August 7, 2004 at 11:16 pm #54263
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  The thing is, something has to be sacraficial, a servo saver is the best option, and they have saved my buns many times in the past, but there aint one for the MR01.
  
  If you make everything alloy, something still has to give…..
- August 7, 2004 at 11:16 pm #54621
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  The thing is, something has to be sacraficial, a servo saver is the best option, and they have saved my buns many times in the past, but there aint one for the MR01.
  
  If you make everything alloy, something still has to give…..
- August 11, 2004 at 12:38 am #54699
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  Here is a bumper for a MRO1, This may help:smiley2:
  
  http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=144_21_76_471&products_id=193
  
  :D:D:smiley2:
- August 11, 2004 at 1:26 pm #54721
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  Here is a bumper for a MRO1, This may help:smiley2:
  
  http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=144_21_76_471&products_id=193
  
  :D:D:smiley2:
  
  cheeky little tacker…:smiley2::D
  something else to break, dat’s all
- August 11, 2004 at 1:50 pm #54726
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  Here is a bumper for a MRO1, This may help:smiley2:
  
  http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=144_21_76_471&products_id=193
  
  :D:D:smiley2:
  
  cheeky little tacker…:smiley2::D
  something else to break, dat’s all
  
  I got a feeling that any hard head on smashes with that thing attached will end up stripping the screws in the chassis that hold it on.
  
  Oh, and it will only fit cars that don’t have a low front spoiler.
  🙂
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