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    • #11603
      PandaBear
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      Just heard that MiniZs (originals!) have come from either China or Japan. Which one have you got? If you ve got both, are they very different in quality & handling??

    • #44494
      Barrelll
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      how can u tell ? From what i can see id reckon japan, id prefer japan, wouldnt trust the chinese, alot of cheap imitation stuff there…

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    • #44498
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      “made in japan” 😀

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    • #44503
      me and me lude
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      chinese ones come in a white box
      japanese come in brown

      z’s are no longer made in japan, all new ones are “made in china” :p

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    • #44512
      aesch
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      japan for me.

      Someone mentioned that originally, there was a difference in the colour of the chassis as to whether it came from japan or china

      Aesch 🙂

    • #44518
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      I think the chinese ones are a slightly lighter grey.

      Whether its made in Japan or China I don’t think really matters. The China factory is probably established & managed by Kyosho anyway; Kyosho also make RC cars in Korea (for some wierd reason, everything from Korea has a wierd “smell” to it… ever buy SKC tapes/discs before?).

      Tamiya also has new state-of-art factory in Phillipenes now.

    • #44521
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      mines japanese, and guess what.. i just borke my mirror offblackeye:blackeye:

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    • #44522
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      Actually.. I think the white bits (“KO Propo”) are all made in Japan. Have to check the chassis bit to tell, I think. I’m still searching for an ‘old’ mZ to compare the differences.

    • #44533
      charg-o-saurus
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      hai, watashi-no “mini-z”-wa…made-do in-u nippon!!!(mines made in japan too.)ive located a mini bb factory in aus, does anyone have the exact sizes of the miniz bearings?lol shypes,join the club…wait until u hit cracksville.blackeye:

    • #44537
      Shypo
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      lol, i just glued the mirror on with super strength epoxy:D
      it was just looking goofy with one mirror just hanging off then falling off. with the white car it doesnt really show the damage as much as your car does. now your car is a battle damaged veteran

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    • #44553
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      both of my mirrors have snapped off my racing porsche body lol

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    • #44556
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      it was attached again but one roll and its gone again, looks like my car is destined to be non symettrical LOL

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    • #44564
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      you could always snap the other one off…

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    • #44565
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      i thought about doing that but then it would just look strange, ah well i jus have to llive with it,

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    • #44581
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      yeh its all good, just shows your a serious racer, call it … weight reduction 😀

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    • #44589
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      i like it Barrelll, very “technical” comments

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    • #44614
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      ive located a mini bb factory in aus, does anyone have the exact sizes of the miniz bearings?

      6x2mm and 6x3mm, both 2.5mm wide.

      Lemme know what you find, I’m after some too.

    • #44619
      Barrelll
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      thatd be cool if we could get them cheap … see what you can do…

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    • #44621
      charg-o-saurus
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      what size is the centre hole?

    • #44622
      GT-ahh
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      6x2x2.5 means 6mm outer, 2mm inner, and 2.5mm wide ….i think
      the other is 6x3x2.5

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    • #44625
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      Nothing escapes Mr GTR… 🙂

      (hmm… who’s next to be GTass? 👿 sorry…)

    • #44627
      GT-ahh
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      lmao thanx panda,…no, really.. anyways ive been researching this too and theres a bearing manufacturer in brookvale so i might check that out.. how many bearings of each size do you need? is it 6 for the wheels and 1 for the motor can?

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    • #44639
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      Brookvale, where abouts, i might go down there on the weekend or next time i work

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    • #44641
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      is it 6 for the wheels and 1 for the motor can?

      No, its:

      4pcs 620 for the wheels
      3pcs 630 for the rear axle (using stock diff)

      Dunno what are motor can bearings, not even sure if this is
      a ‘standard’ size. Yes I see some ppl have about motor bearing
      kits before, but this is pretty hit and miss unless you know
      how to put a motor back together properly (not everyone does).

    • #44643
      Shypo
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      i opened a BCG motor a lil while back, i took the end cap off looked inside and jus went ehhh. then promptly threw it out, lucky it was a 1.0 lol

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    • #44645
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      yeah i did that to a 2.6… ive got like 3 of em

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    • #44647
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      the bad thing is, it was a white ended motor and i just looked for a motor of mine and it turns out it was a 3.5blackeye::dead::dead::dead:😯

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    • #44743
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      Not nice. Im thinking about rewinding a 2.2, even if it dont work it will be interesting to see what happens.

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    • #44746
      GT-ahh
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      um its virtually impossible..open a motor and you’ll see why…unless you have a winding machine and like 1000guage wire ofcourse

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    • #44757
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      They’re made by the same ppl who’ve mastered writing poems on a grain of rice… 😀

    • #44762
      jamiekulhanek
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      ive taken one apart, and i reckon its possible.

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    • #44770
      Shypo
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      good luck, have u seen the teddy bear whcih is as big as a match tip, now thats master craftsmanship

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    • #44781
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      imagine if you dropped that…in the grass…NOOOOOOO! my teddy!

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    • #44783
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      That teddy would be about correct *scale* for a BCG… makes me wanna go build a BCG interior! 🙂

    • #44785
      Shypo
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      how about hell no. i was thinking of making an opening trunk and fabricating a “system” for it with subs and stuff but it got way to hard

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    • #44814
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      ive got a micro circuit that plays a really cheesy break-beat and beat triggers LEDs..prob wont fit in a bit but it would fit in a z..

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    • #44830
      Shypo
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      they would be kinda cool, u can get the import street tuners cars and they have a full on show car interior and boot “install”. i thought about bastardising it for ma Z

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    • #56392
      Jay-Z
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      …so anyhow, back to the chinese V`s japanese chassis!! all the japanese chassis MR01`s i`ve seen seem to be quicker out of the box! i`ve got the chinese chassis model, am i onto something or is it a “grass is greener” thing..

    • #56402
      dgs73
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      this is a year and a half old topic… and am I wrong, or did it go off topic because no-one cared? Or to be more specific; no noteable difference

    • #56406
      jamiekulhanek
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      Damn thats one bump and a half!!

      My car was a japanese 2000 car, came in the brown hexagonal shape box with the dark chssis and black pinions.

      Porsche GT3, i think that was the second car made…

    • #56407
      Aaron
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      I’ve not really heard of much true evidence of one build being markedly quicker than another, but I do know some cars are quicker than others out of the box.

      As in some are just quick…

      iWavers have the same deal. Sometimes I guess tolerences work for you and other times they don’t.

      You guys would be surprised about how many old threads get read still!

      A.

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    • #56408
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      Quote:
      this is a year and a half old topic… and am I wrong, or did it go off topic because no-one cared? Or to be more specific; no noteable difference

      …obviously not no one that cared. and if the topic was brought up in the first place,then there`s your interest. are all MR01`s gone now or are we ALL still driving them.. i haven`t read the topic before, and if you have and didn`t care for it, why reply? it`s not like i`m having a go at chinese chassis`, that`s the chassis i have. no others.

    • #56409
      Jay-Z
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      ..and if i`m going to look into getting another MR01, wouldn`t you research the available products??

    • #56411
      Aaron
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      *nods* Jay-Z is right! The reason we have all the threads and info in the forum is so that people can read back and learn things that the rest of us have already forgotten.

      Reviving an old thread can lead to new info being discovered, and any errors etc corrected.

      You know how it was 2 years ago – many people never thought that half the things that can be done today with Z’s etc could be done… we’ve re-written the rules since then!

      A.

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    • #56413
      dgs73
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      I say that because I have both Japanese and Chinese chassis… without fets the Chinese is faster. Seems to me… oh, who cares. I give up. My opinion to you is **** anyway

    • #56417
      kevsta
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      I don’t think you can buy a made in japan mr01 chassis now anyway.

      With the second hand mr01 that I bought which came with the vw shell, was one of the earlier models and it’s still made in China.

      Although I think my mr02 chassis is made in Japan, need to go have a look.

      🙂

    • #56421
      Jay-Z
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      ..the stock japanese MR01 chassis has a more greyish tinge to it rather than the black chinese ones, and all the japan models i`ve known about come with the older style control- the KT-2? ..i think!!

    • #56440
      dgs73
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      right, as I see it; 01s are Japanese parts, were made in Japan, now assembled cheaper(?) in China, hance the cheaper purchase costs of 01 (you’re right J; the original ones came with a KT2, Chinese with KT5.) Another cost reducer, I guess. My guess is Kyosho made room for all its 02 gear in its Japan facility, thus shipping the remainder 01s to China. The old Japanese chassis is grey and brown. Feel free to correct me, but youv gotta agree i’m being a little more constructive today… blackeye:

    • #56451
      peteWah
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      Get over it
      Chinese Japanese Picanese
      The only diff is the molding of the chassis that says made in where ever the fuck its made, The pcb is the same and like you have already quoted, The original ones came with a KT2, Chinese with KT5, It mean nothing to me

      Stop your bitching

    • #56458
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      ..the stock japanese MR01 chassis has a more greyish tinge to it rather than the black chinese ones, and all the japan models i`ve known about come with the older style control- the KT-2? ..i think!!

      ……not sure about that. both my chassis are they are made in china. 1’s black the other is like a dark brown….

      MK ordered the 2F2F lancer the other day in a redayset…. He got the older controller (KT-2, looks like the mars, personaly i prefer my futaba) but his car must be an MR 1.5 as it’s got a break function…not sure if it’s from japan or china….i’m sure he’ll lettuce no…

      Edited by – Roe on 26 October 2004 16:02:36

    • #56461
      jamiekulhanek
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      Quote:
      Get over it
      Chinese Japanese Picanese
      The only diff is the molding of the chassis that says made in where ever the fuck its made, The pcb is the same and like you have already quoted, The original ones came with a KT2, Chinese with KT5, It mean nothing to me

      Stop your bitching

      nope, before you came to this forum there were issues with chinese Z’s, they had a lower standard soldering job than the jap Z’s and various other things….

    • #56463
      Jay-Z
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      cheers jamie, these are the reasons that i asked in the first place!! maybe the differences are minimal, but it`s good to be able to make an educated choice. thanks again!!

    • #56465
      dgs73
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      Quote:
      Quote:
      Get over it
      Chinese Japanese Picanese
      The only diff is the molding of the chassis that says made in where ever the fuck its made, The pcb is the same and like you have already quoted, The original ones came with a KT2, Chinese with KT5, It mean nothing to me

      Stop your bitching

      nope, before you came to this forum there were issues with chinese Z’s, they had a lower standard soldering job than the jap Z’s and various other things….

      like Iwavers now… and so many people are wanting 02 Iwavers… I hope the soldering job is better than their 01 version…
      Jay-Z; you? Educated choice?? lol

    • #56466
      dgs73
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      and on that note, Josh; he did say then. Not now. Was a while ago… And that other was a joke, before you have another go at me… Bottom line; I dont know that you’re going to get an 01 made in Japan unless second hand

    • #56467
      Jay-Z
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      then & now? in 5 years time the original MR01`s would have still been produced where they were. and what do you mean about having a go at you?? are you an MR01? did you make them and i`m insulting your workmanship? what the #@%$ is this? ..i didn`t even want to reply to all this but didn`t someone mention bitching?? taking a dump in public isn`t cool but what do i do here..

    • #56468
      Jay-Z
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      why am i having this battle??

    • #56483
      dgs73
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      ’twas Pete did say that… I only answered your question. Why are you having this battle? Only you can answer that.

    • #56499
      MiniKing
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      im goin to check my Z that i just got when i get home…

    • #56500
      jamiekulhanek
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      if anybody wants a ‘2000 jap chassis i have one, as seen on the 84km/h mini Z:D

    • #56511
      MiniKing
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      Well i checked my Z last nite and it is an MR01.5 made in china….It has a break function and i can use all the 02 wide bodies on it its awsome….it went heaps harder out of the box than my first Z did and that one is a japanese chassis…………My MR01.5 is now all hopped up and runs heaps better than my 01 did hopped up so i dont know wat the big deal is……i prefer my new MR01.5 i dont give a F**K were its made……just get it and enjoy it……isnt that why we have this hobby??????

    • #56550
      dgs73
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      MK; waht it comes down to, eh? You’re gonna have a heap of fun whether they’re made in China or Japan. Keen to see that 1.5 of yours too…:D

    • #56552
      jamiekulhanek
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      I would think they are much the same now, if not identical…

    • #56561
      Jay-Z
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      ..like i said, just wanted to know if there was advantage to different models! i know some Z`s out of the box are quicker than mine was, so the next Z i`m looking for will hopefully be one of them!! can`t blame me for wanting to investigate 👿

    • #56565
      Roe
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      ..like i said, just wanted to know if there was advantage to different models! i know some Z`s out of the box are quicker than mine was, so the next Z i`m looking for will hopefully be one of them!! can`t blame me for wanting to investigate

      ….fair enough to, as Aaron had to point out, that’s why the treads are still here dude……:)

    • #56569
      Jay-Z
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      ..yeah bro, and now it seems i might have to take an interest in the MR01.5!! is that what miniking just got? ..but wait, tanks are calling!!

    • #56572
      Roe
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      ..yeah bro, and now it seems i might have to take an interest in the MR01.5!! is that what miniking just got? ..but wait, tanks are calling!!

      ….Yeah, MK’s got a 1.5 with the brake function (lucky bars#$d:) I think hes got another suprise to, i’ll find out later tonight!! I hear you brother tanks are calling. Just need to figure out where all this s*&ts gonna live!!….

    • #56576
      kevsta
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      I agree, finding room for it is hard, but getting the other half to approve it is even harder…

    • #56579
      Jay-Z
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      Quote:
      I agree, finding room for it is hard, but getting the other half to approve it is even harder…

      ..i`ve solved this problem kevsta, look in the comm drops topic 👿

    • #56644
      MiniKing
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      Yeah ive got a MR01.5 and i now have my 1/10 DRIFT CAR…..!!!!!!!!I got it at a really goooood price i built it up on the weekend i just need a reciever and a servo and then ill be drifting………..i cant wait…..i will have it ready by Next Sunday…. :D:D

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