acrylic or enamel paint?

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- February 20, 2003 at 10:25 pm #10919
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  Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could suggest which of these two are better for the bcg’s? It seems they both come in flat and gloss. I am looking at using them with an airbrush kit I got as a gift for my bday and was wondering if one would spray/look better than the other. I picked up some primer and had a gloss clear coat from before so I would be looking at using the airbrush for the color coat.
  
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- February 20, 2003 at 11:02 pm #40708
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  i use enamel on alot of my cars and i like it, sorry i cant be more helpful
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 3:51 pm #40690
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  i agree with Shypo.. acrylics work good too, i just dont have any. either way make sure you clean the body good with soap and water to remove any oils from your fingers and you should be ok..
  
  just make sure they have adequate time to dry befor applying a second coat of anything. otherwise you might bubbbe up paint.. espically if you mix the two.
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 5:12 pm #40687
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  Acrylics are usually water-based, so you can use water to cleanup.
  
  Enamels usually need thinners or acetone for cleaning up. This can be smelly and/or firehazard (if you’re a smoker!).
  
  btw airbrushes need a LOT of cleaning up. 👿
- February 21, 2003 at 5:59 pm #40669
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  yeah when u use an air brush you have to run thinner through it to clean it out and like soak it n stuff..
  annoying if you want to change colours
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 6:36 pm #40664
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  auctually you should never run thinner through your airbrush. you should buy special airbrush cleaner. thinner tends to destroy plastic parts.
  
  and i have never really seen an acrylic that cleaned up good with water. in fact usually on most acrylics it will say clean up with laquer thinner.
  
  acetone works great but it can sometimes eat up plastic, its kinda strong so be careful with it. and personally i think it smells good, probably cuz i used to work in a body shop..
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 6:40 pm #43926
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  my airbrush is more of an industrial spray gun… I dont think it has any plastic bits in it…..
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 8:37 pm #40656
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  oh, thats a bit different. most airbrushes made for the modeling do have plastic/rubber pieces..
  
  however Pasche and badger airbrushes recommend that you use special airbrush cleaner. im not sure how much longer it will make your airbrush last, but the stuff is cheaper than laquer thinner so thats basically what ive been using.
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 8:40 pm #40654
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  any tips for a person who’s thinking about buying there first airbrush?
  
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- February 21, 2003 at 9:26 pm #40642
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  Thanks all for the suggestions. I have airbursh thinner, thanks spanky. Still undecided on which is best to use thou. The price dif for the ones I was looking at was very close. Will make a decision on it this weekend. Any last suggest. either way?
  
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- February 22, 2003 at 2:06 am #40623
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  yo shypes supercheap auto has airbrushes for $6
  
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- February 22, 2003 at 8:49 am #40621
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  how bout some water based paint… jk although Faskolor by parmase is pretty good for painting lexans/polycarbonates. i would say stick to the enamels..
  
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- February 22, 2003 at 8:50 am #40619
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  better yet go whith what ever one gives you more choices for colors.
  
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- February 23, 2003 at 6:21 am #43636
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  Thanks again spanky. Will pick paint up today or tomorrow.
  
  Cheers.
  
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- February 24, 2003 at 12:15 am #43633
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  but how crappy are they GT-ahh?:D
  
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- February 24, 2003 at 2:41 am #40573
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  dunno.. supercheap auto is usually pretty bad quality..but hey i’ll check one out…
  
  anyways “a poor worksman always blames his tools”
  
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- February 24, 2003 at 6:37 pm #40551
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  btw In the autoshops (Autobarn, Repco etc) you can find these pressurecans with a glass jar below it. Put your paint in the jar and it becomes an aerosol.
  
  They work pretty well for 1:1s and 1/10s, but I think if you’re doing a BCG you’ll be wasting more paint on the jar than applied on your car.
- February 24, 2003 at 6:41 pm #40552
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  Quote:
  
  …and personally i think it smells good, probably cuz i used to work in a body shop.
  
  Haha, be careful.
  Ya it smells sweet and I think its closely related to Ether,
  but Acetone is supposedly/suspected carcinogenic.
  
  Then again, just about everything enjoyable these days is bad for you.
  Why why why?? blackeye:
- February 24, 2003 at 7:35 pm #40544
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  Quote:
  
  Haha, be careful.
  Ya it smells sweet and I think its closely related to Ether,
  but Acetone is supposedly/suspected carcinogenic.
  
  blackeye:
  
  it just kills brain cells
  
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- February 24, 2003 at 9:27 pm #40514
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  almost as good as sniffing glue
  
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- February 25, 2003 at 10:07 pm #43617
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  i bought a model sized airbrush today $25 inc can…its ok i guess but its blood annoying cause the can gets hell cold after a few minutes and looses pressure so the paint goes all speckly…grrr..im tempted to attack my huge aircompressor to the bitch and see if i can launch it into the stratosphere
  
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- February 25, 2003 at 10:39 pm #40427
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  If you’re spraying for long time from a can, it helps to sit the can into a bowl of warmwater.
  
  Careful about attaching airbrushes to commercial aircompressors. Watch the pressure and above all things, get an inline oil trap.
- February 26, 2003 at 1:04 am #40412
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  lol i wasnt serious….but yeah the air brush is ok..its a bitch to clean tho…
  Question..how much thinner does everyone mix their model paint with for their air brush?
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 6:42 am #40403
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  that depends on the paint. i think testors should be mixed 3:1 or 4:1 check on the bottle or go to the testors website.
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 3:20 pm #40397
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  Thanks GT-ahh you took the words out of my mouth. Spanky I went with 3:1 with enamel paint and it stiped my undercoat right off:( (left me with a dripy finish) Will check the testor website.
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 3:42 pm #40396
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  i use a lot of the Faskolor paints. they are water based paints. so no thinner is needed, and they come premixed for your airbrush.. if you do need to thin them out you just add some water. the faskolor paints have a huge selection of colors, as well as the color changing paints, and the metallic paints that have the huge glitter ghunk look. the only thing is that you have to put on a good coat of clear whenyour done. thats it! they even have a lot of pearl tinted paints.
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 3:57 pm #40389
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  Thanks again spanky. One more question. Can you layer water based on enamel and Visa versa? I have an enamel undercoat and gloss clear finish that I bought and would like to use…with the water based??
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 3:58 pm #40387
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  I asume you can mix as long as you let them dry in between layers, right?
  
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  Edited by – Impreza on 26 February 2003 10:59:36
- February 26, 2003 at 4:51 pm #40380
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  yes. very dry! if they are good and dry you should have no problems.
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 8:19 pm #40368
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  stupid question but is 3:1 three parts paint one part thinner?
  
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- February 26, 2003 at 9:16 pm #40362
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  well you basically want a milky consistancy… so i think that would be 1 part thinner. but i could be wrong/
  
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- February 27, 2003 at 4:42 am #40343
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  thanx spanky..im using 1:1 at the moment…
  
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- February 28, 2003 at 12:20 am #40273
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  Yes, yes one part thinner, 3 parts paint:) for enamel gloss. Bought some acrylic, will give it a go this weekend. May keep looking for the water-based ones thou;) GT-ahh no streaking with 1:1??
  
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  Edited by – Impreza on 27 February 2003 19:22:43
- February 28, 2003 at 6:10 am #40255
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  http://www.parmapse.com/faskolor.asp
  
  thats the link for the the company that makes the water based paint im using… just do a search for “faskolor” online and you should be able to find some.. and they probably have it at your local hobby store
  
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- February 28, 2003 at 8:02 am #40257
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  Thanks for the link spanky. Will try to find some around here. Do you have pics of any of your finished cars?
  
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- February 28, 2003 at 11:21 am #40254
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  yea but, they are on my home computer.. im in chicago on business now. i will post some on sunday
  
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- February 28, 2003 at 6:29 pm #40229
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  NP, thanks again. Adding the finishing touches to the car this weekend, then sealing it in with a clear coat of enamel. Don’t have a dig cam. or web space so will post eventually:(
  
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- February 28, 2003 at 8:00 pm #40224
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  well when you do get pics email them to me and i will host them
  
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- March 1, 2003 at 12:25 am #40211
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  yeah ive got bad streaking..i thought it was my techique tho..
  
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- March 1, 2003 at 5:36 am #43929
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  bad streaking from what? brushing? or running paint
  
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- March 1, 2003 at 5:28 pm #40198
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  running paint…
  
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- March 2, 2003 at 9:34 am #40162
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  thnner coats.. try doing several light coats.
  
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- March 2, 2003 at 11:04 pm #40144
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  I’d go with the air brush But what ever you do DONT use cheap paint stick with modling paint please i know the results if you dont…..blackeye::sad:
- March 2, 2003 at 11:06 pm #43596
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  man why would u use modelling paint on a real car LOl
  
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- March 2, 2003 at 11:59 pm #40131
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  so what is this cheap paint that your using thats so bad. so far i have not had bad results with any paints… some paints just take more coats than others. if your not patient it wont look good…
  
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- June 5, 2003 at 8:37 pm #28267
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  I was reading this old post and I check the testors website (thanks spanky), finally, and found this
  
  http://www.testors.com/hobbyist_guides.asp
  
  Hope this helps answer a few questions on painting?
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