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my girlfriend reports that the motor colour she saw was white…. this is weird.. i guess the Australian motor speeds correspond to different colours than the Bit Char-g’s. I guess a comparison will have to be done if there is no documentation…
oh.. and just like the AmericanHobbico Microsizers, there are only two frequencies: 27Mhz and 40Mhz. (the top corner of the box says TOMY then under it: Microsizers.. no mention of Hobbico)… the american hobbico microsizers are in the 27Mhz and 49Mhz frequencies..i guess now that means we have a total of 6 frequencies in the “official” bit range..
27Mhz, 35Mhz, 40Mhz, 45Mhz, 49Mhz and57Mhz.
6 in a race? whoohoo!
Cheers.
Sounds like a great idea if you can pull it off. I would love to see some picks after you’ve done it
Cars be changed/”modded” with different tyres (soft, medium and hard), axle/gears (8.25:1, 9.86:1, 12:1), motors(1.0, 2.0, 2.2, 2.6, 3.0 and 3.8) and body styles. The best place for parts and accessories i have found are ebay.
Then there are online shops etc like toyeast (http://www.toyeast.com) and dinball (http://mini-zone.dinball.com/).. shocks can also be changed and all parts are interchangeable according to colour preferences, of course you can also paint your bit as well, for which clear bodies are supplied in some sets.
And then you have the “third party” mods which have been started by enthusiasts.. see http://www.questformadness.com
Which include headlights etc..
Cheers.
lol.. sorry Willie.. my girlfriend got them from Albury (country NSW)… i havent had much luck here in Sydney either.. i also checked out Parramatta Westfields like Derek… no luck.. seems the remote areas are the first to be getting them.. (not trying to be offensive btw).
Cheers.
Which K-mart shop did you buy them from Djinn? I’ve been looking all over several K-marts and Toys r’ us stores without sucess… Can anyone help me out?
PRabbit is right about the factors affecting the theoretical RPMs.
The stated purpose for Questformadness.com’s RPM Equivalency Table is to help provide amoreeasily quantifiableunderstanding of the theoretical gains/losses with diff motor/gear combos. The resistance factorsPRabbit refers to that adversely affect RPM, are constant if the only factors you change are the motor/gear combos. Therefore the theoretical gains/losses depicted in the RPM table are unaffected. Simply put, applying the same resistance to the all RPM results, will just yield lower RPMs in the same proportions. So the information about theoretical gains/losses is still accurate. Hope this helps clear up how to read the table.
Also, converting the end-value RPMs to speed, whether scaleor actual,is still theoretical, because as mentionedearlier by Deejay40,this table does not take into account torque or resistance issues. So sorry if I got your hopes up guys, but your BIts arent THAT fast! hehe. J/K 🙂
(after a conversation with a kmart toy personel) apparently there are only 2 models available so far in series 1 for Australia (Compact Char-g), the Skyline and the S2000, with varying colours… no accessories either. also, my girlfriend wasnt able to determine from the package what type of motor it had in it.. strange. lol.. got her to layby one of each for me..
cheers.
hey prabbit. how about this. it seem skinda easy if you could find a certain part.
-a tomy lap counter counts laps, but we want a straight line. -what about measuring a distance that a prabbit special car could run (without having to much speed wobbles. maybe a 5 foot distance (or how ever long the break is in between the tomy lap counter counts laps, so if it needs 2 seconds between lap counts and your car does 1 foot/sec, then it has to be at least 2 ft long) – now for the fun part, open up the counter and find the sensor wires and run a second sensor with it, selectable with a momentary switch. -of course you need to make the wires as long as the measureddistance is going to be.keep the original sensor in the counter at the finish line. -put the other sensor in a housing at the start line. -keep the switch somewhere another person can easily hit.
bottom line. you hit the go button on the counter(with the switch making the 2nd sensor at the start the one that works when pressing the momentary button). then after the start beep from the timer, you start the car way before the line so that when you hit the start, the car is maxing out. someone watches the timer and super super quickly takes note of the time when you pass go and collect $200. as soon as the car passes the start, the switch person lets go of the momentary button so that the original sensor at the finish is now functional (as long as the switch between the sensors does not trigger anything which would nullify my long idea that many are getting bored of reading already). now, the time person records the time when the car passes the finish line. subtract the start line time from the finish time. now you got your seconds it took to cover that distance. now do the calcs to get your desired foot,miles/sec or kilometers/sec. blah blah.
-of course ifthelap counter allows you to use 2 sensors without a switch, this would be even easier to do.
-if this don’t work, the idea 2 is buy 2 lap counters, set them up a yard/meter apart put a yard/meter stick across the top of the counters and push down the yard stick to start the 2 counters at the same time. this should be more fool proof, but you gotta make sure the beeps are at the same time to ensure that they are N-SYNC!!!!!! haha.
-area of concern, make the reflectors as narrow as possible to make this accurate.
b
Been there done that, mate! Hope u have better luck 2day!
-color: #3A6EA5; scrollbar-arrow-color: #3A6EA5; scrollbar-3dlight-color: #3A6EA5; scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #3A6EA5;} –> Well i sent the money through pay pal, using “send money” and i sent it from a credit card. But i didn’t put a message with the money, does that matter?? Its been about 4 days since my first e-mail to them. I also didn’t get a confirmation from them that the payment was received, or the product was shiped, that normal??
HEY swissarmy did u send them the money through paypal yet? U have to go to paypal.com and “send money” to their address that they specified…did u leave them a message aboot the money? anyways they do take a LOOOOOOONG time to receive and send emails, mine took 4 days, hehe guess they get LOTS of emails then
me
Your right guyb I poked around in the controller with my fluke and found that my original idea would be too much hasle. So it took me a little longer to realize what you did just swap the switch, lol. I live in the US and will check Radioshack first.
What about decals too I’d love a windsheild visor sticker like touring cars have of ausmicro.com Dont pass on these its been hard to find good microscale decals for me, so I would jump to get them. I had to settle for the over priced Tomy decals from Sigma for $19!!
I think $15us would be better for you still modest profit but not as silly as 1.50.You would know better whats a good price in AUS but $15US is a drop in the bucket for me and most americans. Isnt there a print shop around you that will do it for less than 500pc to start? As long as you agree to get all the rest from them in the future they should be willing to do at least 100 for the first run. I can get runs as low as 10 from my friend, just that obviously the discount is less for low volume. You may want to shop around I think I can get plain white shirts for $5-7US each.
I have also suggested this to Brent at The Admiral’s Lair as you two are the sitesI go to for all the good news, ideas and good chat about bits. And I think this would be an excellent way to help you guys supplement your cost, while not begging for donnations or prostituting your site to pop-ups.
Swiss – Don’t worry about it. Derek and the guys here are pretty mellow and laid back.
As for the Cripple Capacitor, like was already mentioned, not all Bit CHar-g’s have them. Check carefully, and don’t remove the wrong thing. 😉
Also, you can check at http://www.questformadness.com in their “mods” section for a couple of other ways to boost the range.
(Sorry for referring “elsewhere” Derek… ) 😉
Rob
Well, all this information is all very nice but again, it’s all theoretical. By those calculations a 3.8 motor with 8.25 gears would go12.15 Kilometersper hour or 7.25 Miles an hour. I’ve had this set up on my WRX before and there is no way it was going anywhere near that fast.
If you wanted to go my theory, I made a dual cell bit charge that has double the voltage going to the motor wich means double the rpms at the motor which means double the speed. So, theoreticaly my WRX goes 24.3 Kilometers per hour or 14.5 Miles an hour? NO WAY, not even close. I’d guess my dual cell bit (which is twice as fast as my regular bit) might hit 4 Miles an hour just by guessing.
The friction of the gears without bearings (just plastic gears over metal shafts), friction of the motor rotor without bearings (just brass bushings), friction of the tires, friction of the axle in the plastic housing (again without bearings), friction of the front wheels without bearings (just plastic wheels over metal axles) all adds up in a BIG WAY. If a full sized human carthat was made without any bearings like these things are and with the sloppy tollerances magnified to larger scale you wouldn’t even be able to push it downhill. If you had a huge engine in it youwould probably only go 20miles an hour and all the points where there should be bearings would all seize up or melt away within minutes. Not to be funny but just to bring some reality to these numbers.
Finally, when the motor rotor decreases in resistancethe RPMs increase but the torque does not. That means the torque to rpm ration decreases. IF this ration stays the same you have a somewhat linear increase in overall power but when this ratio decreases, the friction becomes a greater factor in top speed. This means a car with a 1.0 motor might only go 50% of theoretical speed and a car with a 3.0 motor might only go 40% of theoretical speed (these are guessus of course but you see what I mean)
I’ve been trying to think of a way to make some sort of infared timing devise to set up and drive my cars through at full speed and calculate actual speed. I’m interested to see what actual speeds are.
Anyway, it’s always fun to crunch the numbers, Theoretical or Actual.
-Peter
sweet !
I wonder how long the yellow one will stay on the shelf for, i’m going into Perth city tomorrow to check if there are any around at eitherToys-R-Us, Targetor the Perth Hobby Shop. Will update with details of our search 🙂
yeah sorry bout that, im sure there already was a post about it, and it probably really anoys you guys to have me post about it again. Sorry again:smiley5:
Just thought I’d post my findings in this section too.
Hi there, I bought my Char-G at Kmart Garden City, WA for $49.89 yesterday. Looked all over WA and found only 2 at this outlet. Got the silver S2000, left the yellow one on the shelf. I am looking for Mario or the WRX. Would appriciate to know if anyone has sighted more of these babies in WA.
Cheers
Hey guys!
Firstly, there are now two threads regarding the sightings of Compact Char-Gs in Australia (KMart in particular). The other thread is located here.
Yep – they’re out there inthe wild. Seeing we’re in the TECHNICAL section, I’ll do my best to keep this on-topic. This is what we know so far:
- KMart prices vary by state catalogue release
- The models that KMart is selling are 40Mhz or 27MHz. that means Aussies will now have the abaility to run up to five (5) cars simultaneously (27, 35, 40, 45 and 57 MHz)
- The kit numbers are all “G-03”
- Packaging is similar to the Japanese boxes, albeit redesigned, with different graphics/artwork.
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That’s the best I can do for now. More news as it comes to hand.
Cheers…. and welcome to you new guys – great to have you on board!
Derek :smiley1:
Oh…for what it’s worth…..
No sign of them at KMart Parramatta Westfields.
Bugger. Will try to get hold of one tomorrow for a review.
Derek
Please readall the other post about this.
Hey! not all the bit’s have a cripple cap. Check very well.
Hi there, I bought my Char-G at Kmart Garden City, WA for $49.89 yesterday. Looked all over WA and found only 2 at this outlet. Got the silver S2000, left the yellow one on the shelf. I am looking for Mario or the WRX. Would appriciate to know if anyone has sighted more of these babies in WA.
Cheers
girlfriend will be checking out kmart for a full inventory report tomorrow….
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