8ch Ess Vee

[8ch Ess Vee]

Bummer hey Dave,

I was dead keen to get down there myself, but didn’t quite have the “get up and go” to get up and go down to Hobart from Devonport on Sunday morning.

After playing at the Forth Blues Festival on Saturday I was also a bit broke (dont ya hate those gigs where you only get paid a small fee and are expected to feel good about just having the enjoyment of playing in front of a big crowd!)

Admittedly I really enjoyed the day, excelent weather, good food, cold beer and some awesome blues music by artists and bands from all over Australia and N.Z.

Anyway, hopefully they all had a great couple of days at the DEC and will send a heap of newcommers to the site and post some cool pics too!!

With a bit of luck some NW coasters for me to race with too!!

8ch Ess Vee
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[8ch Ess Vee]

Yeah, I think you are right there Dave.

I was thinking that I would have the pit straight at ground zero and the top of the mountain at say + 150 – 200mm and actually bending the track base to acheive the desired contour and supporting it with a frame at the mountain end.

That way it would slightly resemble the real track contour, but there would actually be only very gentle rises over a long distances to make it suitable for the Char-Gs.

As in the real world, climbing would be just a little slower, but coming down conrod would be really fast 😀

One day perhaps!!!!

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Don’t play with it too much Dave, it will fall off!

I have noticed a few times the aerial has caught on the Dunlop bridge and spun the car straight around and into the barriers!

Looks kinda cool actually!

I have a big piece of ply that would fit a mini Mount Panorama perfectly.

I may have to unload my first track though to make some room in the workshop for the bigger layout.

I really want to get all my techniques down pat on this track before I start into another project.

As for getting rid of the missus, I could be really nasty and send her around to your place!!

Hmmmm, Then I would have plenty of time to build another track!! :smiley2:

Now there’s a thought!! 👿

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[8ch Ess Vee]

DaveF, you are right, 50mm would probably be enough to allow them to pass under. I have just finished the structural phase of the Pit lane Buildings (a coat of paint and some signs and they will be done) and my little workshop doors are 55H x 50W, and the cars fit fine, but the aerials do catch fairly bad.

I thought that after seeing a lot of photos with aerials coiled spring fashion, that they may then catch on the bridge if it was too low. I also didn’t want to make it too hard to see the cars as they passed under the bridge and also for ease of access in the event of a multi-car pile up!!

My bridge actually started out at 75mm high but due to the radius of the bridge / track, it ended up 90mm at the highest point.

I used a piece of 75 x 50mm x 200mm long (bridge width) pine as the supports either side of the track.

In hind sight, perhaps laying the pine on its side (50mm high) would have been enough.

Next track I’ll re-invent it all again no doubt, perhaps a corkscrew ramp would be a challenge.

Then again I had thoughts of my next track being a mini Mount Panorama, complete with the mountain.:D

It may depend on if I want to keep my girlfriend or not blackeye:

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[8ch Ess Vee]

A Higher resistance = lower current consumption, so more turns of thinner wire should mean less battery drain.

Basically a thicker wire is closer to puting effectively a dead short in the circuit. But more current = a stronger magnetic field, then again you batteries are only capable of providing a certain amount of current, so it is a bit of a catch 22 situation.

But then you go the other way, more turns of a thinner wire should also result in a stronger magnetic field with a lower current drain.

Me thinks trial and experimentation will be the best way to find out the optimum wire guage and coil size / number of turns.

Then the problem of fitting it all in raises its ugly head.

Cheers.

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[8ch Ess Vee]

A Higher resistance = lower current consumption, so more turns of thinner wire should mean less battery drain.

Basically a thicker wire is closer to puting effectively a dead short in the circuit. But more current = a stronger magnetic field, then again you batteries are only capable of providing a certain amount of current, so it is a bit of a catch 22 situation.

But then you go the other way, more turns of a thinner wire should also result in a stronger magnetic field with a lower current drain.

Me thinks trial and experimentation will be the best way to find out the optimum wire guage and coil size / number of turns.

Then the problem of fitting it all in raises its ugly head.

Cheers.

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Barelll,

I measured my bridge last night, it is 900mm from the flat on one side to the same point at the other, and it is 90mm high to the bottom of the 3mm MDF at the highest point.

It gives a reasonable clearance for cars going under the bridge, so I’d say the height is about right, but I would probably make it about about 1100mm overall in length.

That would make it just that little bit easier to get over.

The track surface would have a bit of an effect on this too as would motor and gearbox ratio.

Have a go with a scrap piece of your blackboard track and see how it performs before you make any permanent changes to your layout would be my advice.

Cheers

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[8ch Ess Vee]

OK, OK, OK, Shypo I get the picture man!!

I’ll start to have nightmares about your speed racer doing the unmentionable to my precious inocent little cars if you keep going! 👿

Barelll,

before you build any bridges, I will measure mine and let you know about the right size to make it.

The more I rac around my track, the more I wish I hadn’t made it quite so steep :clown:

I’ll get back to you.

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[8ch Ess Vee]

OK Then, perhaps I should be just a little scared then!!blackeye:

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Thanks for that link Cranga, I was laying in bed last night and thought that I may even be able to modify some christmas lights to make some cheap and reasonably bright street lights. I’ll have to have a look at ’em to see what’s gonna work and look cool.

dgs73, I guess it has taken about one month but only around 15-20hrs actual work time to get it to this stage. As for completion, I think that I’m a long way still from getting it finished.:shock:

Barelll, I started last night by cutting the back door out of the truck. Soaked the original stickers off and just about to design some new ones to put on. Two Bits fit perfectly in the back of the truck. I’ll put a new floor in just to make it look good, but I think it will come up real sweet:D I’ll post some pics when I’m finished.

As for getting my track to Hobart, I’d really love to but I’m busy on the saturday, and I don’t think I have got any way of carrying it down there on Sunday.

I guess I could strap it to the roof of the Clubsport 😯 NOT.

Dunno, if you really wanted, perhaps I could possibly send it down on Redline. Not too sure what the cost would be though?

Shypo, Bring it on dude! by the time you get down here I will have perfected my laps and you will be sorry you even set foot on out little slice of paradise!!

I had a mate a few years back that had a VL turbo. Awesome car, ran low 13’s with standard tyres and auto. Ran about 24lb boost with a 3″ side pipe straight off the turbo and water/methanol injection. Won the Street car title here in Tassie for a couple of years in a row in a basically standard car.

Awesome burnouts too!! Did a couple of them for him when we used to swap cars now and then. My 5.0litre VB SLE was a bit slower than his VL, but for bottom end torque My bus had the wood on him (read for the first 15mtrs over the 1/4:sad:)

As for whooping a Falcon, Jeez, what did you expect! I mean really.

I guess you know what FORD stands for:

F*****
On
Race
Day

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[8ch Ess Vee]

DaveF,
That Fix-All sounds like good stuff, stick to plastic OK does it?

I’ve seen pics of your track which looks awesome, and some of your videos clips too. I need to get a firewire card and an video editing package for my home PC and hopefully I may be able to post a video too. Just need a few more spare $ to come my way and I’ll be cruisin’!

The angle was from Mitre 10, but I guess most hardware stores would have it. I think they use it mainly around edges of either plaster board or laminex. There was a big rack of the stuff all different dimensions (up to nearly 50 x 50) along with ‘H’ and ‘U’ section stuff used for joining ply lining and covering edges etc. It was reasonably cheap at around the $4.00 per 2.4mtr length mark from memory.

Shypo,
I had a mate drop around last night (another one with a VS Clubsport, same as mine but Series I and Black :smiley16:) and we raced around for an hour or so.

Had a heap of fun, nearly wet ourselves with laughter when he misjudged the first corner and swung straight into the pit EXIT lane full tilt and took out half of the lego Pit crew and a couple of cars!blackeye:

I think that after that I would say the standard motors I am running are perhaps just on the fast side. You need to really be coscious of not going too fast or you will miss the apex of the corners and plough into the rails. I can’t yet make it around just holding the gas on that’s for sure.

I guess a lot of it will come down to practice and getting the hang of turning just at the right time. For example once you go over the bridge you need to just coast down the otherside, otherwise there isn’t a hope in hell of making it around the next corner (far right hand corner of track in the overview) because you are traveling too quick.

I live in Devonport Tasmania, and if I remember correctly you are on the “North Island” (Sydney?), but if you are ever in the area, feel free to drop me a line for sure!!

Cheers

8ch Ess Vee
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[8ch Ess Vee]

Thanks Guys:D

The bridge isn’t too bad to get over. The base is a 10mm ply sub base with 3mm craft wood (MDF) glued down and then painted with black Blackboard paint. It’s a bit too smooth in patches but I found that a bit of a rub with a scotch pad / scourer roughs it up just right without ruining the look of it. I think I may actually leave a couple of smooth patches here and there just to catch the unwary out!

The bridge needs just a bit more rubbing to make it easy to get up either way, but unless you have a full tank (read charge) you may not make it over first time due to lack of traction. Quite a bit of skill required to ensure you get a good run at it and miss the barriers so you don’t loose too much speed.

But as Cranga said, it is perfectly smooth up and over.

Plans on the board are a pit building with a control tower at one end with about 4 bay big enough to fit a Bit into. I thought about a lake and perhaps a creek or waterfall running into it off the very edge of the outer frame. I may even try filling it with some clear resin to look realistic. Perhaps even a boat!!

I also had the idea of street lights for night racing. One day perhaps.

DaveF, I used 19mm x 19mm x about 1.5-2mm white plastic angle for all the barriers. Held down with staples for most of the way and a couple of self tapping screw in the dificult bits where the staple gun wouldn’t fit. Bought the angle from Mitre 10 at about $4.00 for a 2.4 mtr length and I used ever inch of about 5 lengths for my track.

I have some sticky back A4 paper that I was gonna try for the barrier logos, then perhaps a layer of clear sticky tape over the top to protect ’em abit from bumps and marks. That failing, I’ll give the Selly’s stuff a whirl. Is the Fix-All like your standard old Aquadhere white glue or something different?

Barelll, the Chicken feed truck was a real bargain. The whole upper section of the trailer is held down with a screw and a couple of clips, but I think that I will be able easily remove it and carefully cut the back door out and make a nice ramp. I may need to put a new floor in too. And yeah, the cars should just fit in there perfectly :smiley2:

Shypo, the bridge does look like an LA freeway, I wanted that look of bitumen and concrete for the bridge, and I’m pleased with the end result so far. I’m just running a standard Compact Char G with I presume the standard 2.2 motor I think, which is just OK. I don’t as yet have any other motors (1.0 etc) to try to comment. The Nano Racers are about the same speed as the Compact so I guess they are a similar motor. (Not yet up to speed with all that side of these little babies yet, been too busy on the track) I’ll definately let you know of any race results if and when I find a few competitors!!

Again thanks everyone for the positive feedback, I had better go do some more work on it now!

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Edited by – 8ch Ess Vee on 12 February 2003 17:19:34

[8ch Ess Vee]

Or perhaps we could source some of those ammo belts.

You know shove about 40 Bits “shells” in it and sling it over your shoulder, special compartments for spare AA cells, tires, axels and controllers etc etc.

Don’t ya just love freedom of speach!!

:smiley2:

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Mmmm,

I got a Bb and that has just planted the seed:)

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Should do!

I know how contagious they are. One look and they get you in!

Big time!!

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Has anyone else seen the Monaro wallpaper in the walpaper comp at TinyRC.

http://tinyrc.com/gallery/wallpaper/abm

That Munro looks awesome squashed up with the Bit wheels on it!!

Even some of the Pullback widies would look cool :smiley16:

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[8ch Ess Vee]

I’m looking forward to it.

Bad bit is tho I’m playing in a band on the Saturday (Forth Valley Blues Festival), so hopefully I will be able to make it down to Hobart on the Saturday late arvo / night to be in to the expo early on Sunday.

Just my luck by the time I get there all the good stuff will be gone!!

Fingers crossed, I may have to get you to stock up on a few “Bits” for me!!

DaveF I see you are a Muso’ too!! :smiley2:

Must be somethin about music and racing cars that go together just right!!:smiley16:

We have been guilty (in both bands I’m in) of racing cars in between practicing, drinking, chatting and smokin’

My track is about ready to race on with about 50% of the barriers on. Dunn, I think practice’s may suffer when its finished 😀

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[8ch Ess Vee]

This thread is a bit old now, so not sure if you will get this, but I’ll try it anyway.

No I havn’t got msn sorry Barelll,

I think if it was you guy at Bit Char G oz , I sent you an e-mail just before Xmas, so you may have my e-mail there. If not I guess you can PM me!

Cheers.

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Its a ’96 Series II, manual, still stock standard at the moment (apart from the stereo :D) and its still only got 50,000 ks on the clock 🙂

Must say I love the VL’s too. The Calais’s have something about them (especially the ones with the turbo badges!!!!)

But most fav of all times would have to be the Bluey’s (VK SS Grp A Brock) Now that is one tough lookin set of wheels!!

But then again the VT Clubsports aren’t too shabby either!!

Oh god, I dunno, perhaps I will just have to have one of each (I wish :approve:)

If I had a few more Bit bodies to look at up close to see which one would lend itself to a conversion I would have a go at making one myself.

One day perhaps 🙂

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[8ch Ess Vee]

I’m with Shypo on this one.

A Clubsport would be awesome, a white VS, just like my real one,

I’d definately buy or build one of them 😀

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[8ch Ess Vee]

And the flashing yellow lights on top and strobe style headlights!!:smiley2:

Now that would be cool :approve:

All the extra weight would probably have the desired effect of having a slower pace car!!

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[8ch Ess Vee]

They look nice and wide!!

Gotta get me some of those big fats!!:D

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[8ch Ess Vee]

They look nice and wide!!

Gotta get me some of those big fats!!:D

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[8ch Ess Vee]

What do they say??
somethin’ like

‘If it has breasts or wheels it’s gonna be trouble!’

:smiley2:

I’ve got it bad too, a 1/8 Scale Nitro Off Road, 3 boats (2 Nitro and 1 electric), 1 Compact CG, 2 Nano Racers, 1 Enertec MSC, Sony PS2, an ’96 HSV Clubsport, a dog and in my spare time I play bass guitar in a couple of bands!!

Somehow I still find time to work 40+ hours a week and have a Fiance!!:p

Not sure how much longer the last one is gonna last thought blackeye:

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[8ch Ess Vee]

Job well done!!:smiley16:

The chalk board comes up really well. How thick is that stuff.

I painted my track surface with blackboard spray paint and spent nearly as much money on the paint as you guys did on the board already surfaced!!:sad:

Can’t wait to see some more pics with a bit of the cosmetic detailing done.

Whish I was down that way to have pitched in and given you a hand :smiley2:

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